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Re:Emacs 29 by bombcar on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:21PM (#33790365)
Emacs is a lifestyle and it takes time to get into it. The jokes are pretty spot on - it's a wonderful operating system; it only needs a decent text editor.

You'd probably have to "dedicate" yourself to it for a month or more (and having a "mentor" or support group that can answer questions and telling you there's an easier way to do it would help).

It was MUCH more powerful (relative) when we didn't have much beyond a terminal emulator.

Re:Emacs 29 by bergheim on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:23PM (#33790402)
I don't know why you are being downvoted - I agree. I do just that.

Last paragraph though I do not agree with at all.

Re:Emacs 29 by bombcar on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:38PM (#33790619)
Before tools like VScode existed Emacs was infinitely beyond other options, now it’s just really really really far ahead.
Re:Emacs 29 by bergheim on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @01:23PM (#33791181)
I'll bite. How did vscode raise the bar from every other editor/ide ever?
Re:Emacs 29 by qorrect on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:32PM (#33792878)
I don't think that's what he is saying. He is saying that Emacs once ruled supreme because it was the only option. Now that IDE's have caught up, it's in the lead by only a little.
Re:Emacs 29 by bombcar on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:46PM (#33793053)
I'd say still by a lot, but yeah, IDEs have advanced in the last 20+ years (and one of the main advantages of something like VScode or IntelliJ is that it does a lot "out of the box" and it's pretty discoverable).
Re:Emacs 29 by xedrac on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @02:13PM (#33791804)
I don't know. I used emacs for a solid year (in evil mode admittedly), and my configuration kept breaking with new updates. I spent more time fiddling with my config files than being productive. I love lisp and the idea of emacs. But when I started using vscode, my productivity immediately jumped. Emacs also suffers from latency spikes, even worse than vscode does. I want Emacs, but with the speed of Rust, and the polish of vscode.
Re:Emacs 29 by wry_discontent on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @04:19PM (#33793451)
My experience has been the opposite. I spent a few weeks doing a lot of config randomly, but after I had a solid setup, I rarely touch it.

I haven't made a config change in months. And the last few were all just new convenience shortcuts.