I'm sorry, but what exactly do either drag queens or men in leather have to do with pedophilia?

I'm not exactly a member of either community, but my understanding of drag is that it's performance art. My understanding of the leather community is that it's (1) a cornerstone of gay male culture, and (2) the polar opposite, in terms of sexual preferences, of the things people normally see as child-abuse-adjacent.

You're entitled to whatever opinion you have about the age appropriateness of "preschool leather daddy," if that's a thing that has ever even existed. But I see no reason to enshroud that opinion in the same old tired fearmongering tropes about gay people.

Fair enough, we could give the benefit of the doubt. We could look at BDSM culture as something that's central to gay culture (which I think is a cliché) and then deduce that because homosexuality doesn't start at age 18, it's not inappropriate to have children dress in fetish gear. Oh, and by the way, if you disagree that makes you a homophobe.

Personally, I believe that road leads down to the normalization of pedophilia, which is a stated goal of certain queer activists. I think we need boundaries, it's not actually helpful to "look the other way" and perform extravagant mental gymnastics to convince ourselves that it's not pedophilia when it looks like pedophilia.

> which is a stated goal of certain queer activists.

None that I'm aware of. Given your own stated recalcitrance to actually search for resources and information about these things, I suggest (as gently as possible) that you're way off base here.

I gave a Youtube link in the opening comment, I suggest you watch it.

How many incidents of “preschool leather daddy” have there been?

At least one, but it's not something I'm willing to google to find out precisely how common it is.

I'm just pointing out that if you're too uncomfortable to educate yourself on the superficial level of googling if its actually real/a problem, you're likely unable to engage with this subject matter in a way that actually works to prevent child abuse. Yes, it's an ugly subject. Most children who are sexually abused are abused by their own family, not by random drag queens, not by whatever viral thing you heard but you can't google because it's too gross for you.

If you want to actually make a difference, educate yourself on the very real harm that is done to children. Volunteer for anti-child abuse organizations. Advocate for real policies, such as banning child marriages across all states. Call your government about the hundreds of migrant children that ICE just "lost". Advocate for the removal of domestic abusers from police and civil servant positions. etc.

This is a subtle form of whataboutism. First of all, this is not my personal activist cause. It's just something where I see people being naive (like the person I replied to) and I want to tell them to stop being naive.

If this was about child marriage, I'm sure many arguments along the lines of "it's part of their culture, we need to respect it" can be made. Indeed, such things are normalized in certain cultures. They are not even considered child abuse. I suspect we are early on in a trajectory where we are normalizing child abuse under the guise of supporting LGBT. What we decide now matters not so much to the children today, but in the indefinite future. Human morals appear to be quite flexible in that regard.

It's not whataboutism, it's pointing out that you're making some suspected wild trajectory of child abuse when actual child abuse currently exists in a widespread, normalized fashion.

There's no need to invent gay people clandestinely abusing children as if straight people don't openly abuse children already. Like I said, marrying underage children is legal, and it certainly isn't the lgbtq people that put that law there.

We're entering not-so-subtle whataboutism territory here. Which culture has normalized child marriage? Certainly not mainstream American culture. Even if it's technically legal under certain circumstances, it's exceptionally rare.

It's not just technically legal under certain circumstances. It's explicitly legal. Only 7 states enforce adult marriage, with thousands of child marriages occurring each year. This certainly occurs more often than that viral thing you were too grossed out to google, and frankly attributing online unsubstantiated rumors about lgbtq people, when literal child marriages are happening in the thousands among straight people, is frankly the whataboutism here.

My first guess would be zero, but even if it is in fact one, the answer to your question regarding how many times it would take to make me believe this fashion show is part of a child-porn conspiracy is "more than that".

Drag queens have more to do with clowns than with sex. I can't see anything wrong with drag queen story hour.

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