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Re:After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses persona... by imiric on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @04:02AM (#33785248)
Sure, but couldn't you just use a disposable number? (Assuming you live in a place where you can buy SIM cards without showing a personal ID, which is most countries.)

That's a minor inconvenience compared to not being able to communicate with most people who use these mainstream networks.

I'm more worried about the lack of encryption and trustworthiness aspect of them than giving away a phone number.

Re:After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses persona... by logifail on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @04:39AM (#33785507)
> Assuming you live in a place where you can buy SIM cards without showing a personal ID, which is most countries

I had understood that the majority of countries now required SIM card registration. Plenty of EU member states do, so it's not just the usual suspects(!)

Re:After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses persona... by ls15 on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @04:19AM (#33785368)
Most countries require SIM card registration nowadays.

https://www.phonetravelwiz.com/phone-travel-options/sim-card...

> Of the 245 countries/territories with territory-bound mobile operators, 185 countries have SIM card registration laws. 13 will collect biometrics (fingerprints, but some will take a face scan too). 51 countries have no registration requirements.

Which by itself is questionable.

Re:After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses persona... by imiric on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @06:25AM (#33786198)
Hmm I didn't think it would be that many. I'm sure there might be workarounds, like ordering online or buying from vending machines at airports, etc., but yeah, it's certainly not as convenient as before.
Re:After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses persona... by chopin on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @09:30AM (#33788010)
The problem isn't buying the SIM card, the problem is activating it.
Re:After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses persona... by happymellon on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @09:50AM (#33788261)
A lot of people talk down on the UK invading privacy, but interestingly we don't require it!
Re:After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses persona... by StreamBright on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @04:43AM (#33785529)
The are no disposable numbers in many countries anymore. On the top of that you are just generating even more signal than using a single number.

People have to understand that meta-data about you is almost as important as data.

For example just the fact that your phone has signal or telegram installed is meta-data that helps to identify you. They do not need to know your name.

And for bonus:

https://www.justsecurity.org/10311/michael-hayden-kill-peopl...

Re:After Delhi High Court ruling, Telegram discloses persona... by 2Gkashmiri on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @06:33AM (#33786255)
you can't get disposable (anonymous) mobile numbers in india. >I'm more worried about the lack of encryption and trustworthiness aspect of them than giving away a phone number.

you can use your own encryption on top of a cleartext model if that is a problem