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Re:The AI War and How to Win It by rendang on Sunday November 27, 2022 @10:11PM (#33769405)
Advances in AI areas like computer vision seem to mostly come from academics who publish their work. Once an innovation is published, it is available for all to use or imitate. I don't see how a state actor is going to make some major AI advance that it is also able to conceal from other states.

I'd be particularly bearish on AI for grand strategy. If LLMs need billions of examples of text to outperform humans, an analogous war strategy AI would need to be trained on more examples of warfare than have been conducted in human history.

Re:The AI War and How to Win It by jasfi on Monday November 28, 2022 @12:26AM (#33770109)
Yes, the invention mostly comes from academics, but also top ML/AI scientists hired by large corporations (who also publish their work from what I've seen).

Innovation is then left up to everyone else.

Re:The AI War and How to Win It by NLPlatypus on Monday November 28, 2022 @01:10AM (#33770311)
>I don't see how a state actor is going to make some major AI advance that it is also able to conceal from other states.

The defense budget is hundreds of billions of dollars

Reinforcement learning models are already crushing humans at strategy games from StarCraft to Diplomacy

Re:The AI War and How to Win It by kaanski on Monday November 28, 2022 @02:21AM (#33770642)
While impressive I don’t think StarCraft and Diplomacy can be compared to an actual war.

Diplomacy especially has at most three actions that can be taken per turn (move, support, hold) maybe five if you include convoy and retreat. Generally each country does have pretty limited paths to win.

The impressive thing is the natural language processing of the AI and from what I read from one top diplomacy player the fact that the AI doesn’t try and take revenge when betrayed, doesn’t develop trust with any players or let any sort of subconscious feelings get in the way of its goal.

I don’t see a world where, as the article suggests, all war is automated.

I see a world where AI helps us be even more prepared for the last war, and equally unprepared for new wars.