Re:London's Ultra Low Emission Zone to cover entire city
by rajman187 on Sunday November 27, 2022 @07:23AM
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You overestimate the public transportation. If you live in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of Epsom, or deep in some residential neighborhood in Surbiton, you’d have to walk 2+ miles just to reach a bus stop, and then a long journey to get to school.
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Re:London's Ultra Low Emission Zone to cover entire city
by matsemann on Sunday November 27, 2022 @07:38AM
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Then long term people should stop living places like that and assume they still can take a car to the middle of the city for every small thing.
That's kinda the point: disincentives, that will make people think twice about how they choose to live.
Re:London's Ultra Low Emission Zone to cover entire city
by rajman187 on Sunday November 27, 2022 @08:07AM
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You don’t seem to get it, these aren’t schools in central London. The residential neighborhoods and schools are both in the boonies. But sure, people should all cram into a congested and extremely overpriced housing market that is run by foreign money and immediately change all habits…
Re:London's Ultra Low Emission Zone to cover entire city
by matsemann on Sunday November 27, 2022 @08:14AM
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I didn't say immediately change all habits. I literally wrote long term. Don't straw man me, please.
Over time, changes like these will make people reconsider, and perhaps not move to places without public transit or where schools are far away. Or municipalities will have to change, offer these things or people will abandon them. Either way, it slowly fixes things.
Re:London's Ultra Low Emission Zone to cover entire city
by pastacacioepepe on Sunday November 27, 2022 @07:38AM
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Then demand Better public transportation. How do you think the Netherlands became the transportation paradise It is today?
Simple, large popular movements demanding it in the 70s. Before that their transportation was as car-centered as it is today in the US.
Re:London's Ultra Low Emission Zone to cover entire city
by rajman187 on Sunday November 27, 2022 @08:08AM
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Agreed but not feasible overnight , and the time frame for this new tax is much closer to a sudden change than the required infrastructure overhaul.
Adding a new train line cost $2bn over budget and about 5 years longer than planned.