That’s why it’s in quotes, but if you start reading the cliffs notes version of history, he is the father of liberalism or some permutation of that. I agree with you, he was a monster.

If anyone has to be the ‘father’ of ‘liberalism’ it’s Roosevelt who lost the election to Wilson.

Of course, then "liberal" meant something else, but since then it was appropriated by the same party Wilson (and KKK) belonged to, so there might be an argument for relationship between the two.

Liberal means a lot of things, but not what you’re trying to make it mean. Probably lay off the Dinesh D’Sousa movies if you want to be taken seriously by anyone outside your little bubble.

You seem to know so much about me from one comment, I don't think my participation in this discussion is even necessary - I think it can happen entirely inside your head with whatever simulation of the outside world you have constructed, without needing any external inputs.

Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes everything worse.

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Could you please stop breaking the site guidelines? You've done that quite badly here and at least one other place in this thread.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.