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Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by petercooper on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:41PM (#33748988)
Koyaanisqatsi is my favorite movie by a mile, so obviously I love this. Koy is interesting because it's not simply a movie painting a certain picture (which an experiment like this can't do), but because it's a format too (which this experiment focuses on).

The third in the trilogy of Qatsi movies, Naqoyqatsi, while the least well known is probably the closest fit for this experiment since it's almost entirely stock footage laid over the (orchestral – in contrast to Koy) soundtrack. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgM46I-ZryM

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by FeistySkink on Friday November 25, 2022 @09:04PM (#33749111)
I haven't watched the first one since forever. Any specific version you would recommend? I imagine the modern versions are going to be cropped one way or the other. Is that the case?
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by carewell on Friday November 25, 2022 @10:14PM (#33749533)
Criterion's 2012 Blu-ray release is probably the best available. It's a restored and remastered version that was made with the involvement of the original crew.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by classichasclass on Saturday November 26, 2022 @01:45AM (#33750527)
Seconded. Bought the Criterion box set, never regretted it. Looks fabulous in the home theatre.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by hypertele-Xii on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:52PM (#33750113)
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Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by carewell on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:59PM (#33750151)
For some reason Reggio opted against releasing this version commercially years later with Criterion, so not sure it's what he would recommend himself.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by carewell on Friday November 25, 2022 @10:03PM (#33749475)
That was also my first thought - Naqoyqatsi would have been a better fit.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by dtgriscom on Friday November 25, 2022 @10:21PM (#33749563)
Oy, veh. Philip Glass gives me the hives.

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... for an hour.

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by andrei_says_ on Friday November 25, 2022 @10:38PM (#33749648)
The minimalism is precisely why I like him.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by indigodaddy on Friday November 25, 2022 @10:46PM (#33749698)
Perhaps he’s an acquired taste. Although I fell for Glass immediately as an adult. As soon as I heard a few notes I was drawn to the music.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by bb88 on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:04PM (#33749792)
I think the Tales From the Loop soundtrack is easy to get into. Yes there is repetition, but there's also motion as the phrases change to convey different ideas.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by indigodaddy on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:12PM (#33749842)
Yes, I enjoyed the music in that series. VERY reminiscent of Truman soundtrack, but of course, he borrows and does variations upon his own earlier works all the time. Truman is very reminiscent of Mishima imo also.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by FpUser on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:23PM (#33749921)
Exactly my experience as well
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by mlinksva on Saturday November 26, 2022 @12:30AM (#33750269)
From pretty much the first time I'd heard/heard of Glass (conceivably Koyannisqatsi) I found him kind of boring, and didn't listen carefully, except for the Kronos Quartet performs Philip Glass album, because I love KQ. Apparently dismissing Glass is a thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tizP7IFyWig

Anyway, after many years I've listened carefully and love it all. I hope to experience (and will gladly fly to) a live performance of Einstein on the Beach someday. Like the infinitely more sophisticated person in the linked video, I was wrong about Glass.

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by indigodaddy on Saturday November 26, 2022 @01:31AM (#33750481)
Pretty much same for me. Listened very casually/cursorily/briefly in my late teens, tried a few times again in my 20s and 30s, and found it kind of boring and unexceptional.

Then in my early 40s I dug in a bit and really started actually listening and exploring. And oh man what a wide universe of musical discovery burst forth for me after that. And I couldn’t believe that I didn’t put in a little effort earlier..

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by justincormack on Saturday November 26, 2022 @04:05AM (#33751163)
I managed to see Einstein on the Beach in London a while back, recommended! It is performed maybe once a decade or something somewhere…
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by andrei_says_ on Saturday November 26, 2022 @02:52PM (#33756014)
I discovered him through the soundtrack for the American remake of Breathless with Richard Gere. His music makes the film.

I recently listened of Philip Glass: Piano Works performed by Vikingur Olafsson and that left me speechless.

Softer, more dynamic, more soulful, less mechanical.

Highly recommended.

https://open.spotify.com/track/5q7DgKLBQ54FXKAfGxNMGs?si=zwt...

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by thewebcount on Friday November 25, 2022 @10:57PM (#33749759)
Yeah, I really do not like Philip Glass’s music, but I actually love the soundtrack to this movie. I heard it one day on the radio (local classical station was playing it) a few years after the movie came out and didn’t know what it was. I was really surprised it was by him. But the rest of his stuff just doesn’t work for me at all.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by indigodaddy on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:10PM (#33749828)
Funnily, Koyaanisqatsi ranks on the lower end for me for Glass works (no pun intended). I’m a huge Glass fan(atic perhaps), and much prefer stuff like Truman Sleeps, Mishima, Jane soundtrack, Glassworks, Symphony #4 Heroes (Glass/Bowie/Eno), Mad Rush, etc etc. His music composed specifically for the piano is gorgeous.

Amy Dickson’s saxophone interpretations of his violin concertos are absolutely riveting, example: https://youtu.be/ZdUWPA_AX6o

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by carewell on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:54PM (#33750121)
It's interesting that there are two fan groups of Glass' music with almost no overlap. Qatsi trilogy is also on the lower end for me, but my favorite pieces are his more experimental works like Einstein on the Beach. Most of his Hollywood soundtracks are way more conventional.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by Zababa on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:57PM (#33750144)
The soundtrack from Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters is absolutely incredible, just like the movie as a whole. I've been looking for a way to get prints of some parts of the movie, the last blu ray from Criterion has a small booklet with a few pictures from the sets, but they're very small.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by carewell on Saturday November 26, 2022 @12:01AM (#33750160)
AI upscaling works incredibly well in my experience.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by Zababa on Saturday November 26, 2022 @12:26AM (#33750249)
Is there any in particular that you would recommend? I'll admit that I have a negative prior for AI upscaling, as I've seen a few cases in I think iPhone pictures where the AI added things that weren't there. Ideally I'd like to find the original pictures of the sets, as either they will be digital, or can be digitized without losing anything, but it looks like it would require a trip to the USA at the E. Young Research Library, and I'm not even sure I would be allowed to take copies.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by cycrutchfield on Friday November 25, 2022 @10:58PM (#33749762)
Philistine.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by bouvin on Saturday November 26, 2022 @08:21AM (#33752399)
I adore Philip Glass, and it was through Koyaanisqatsi that I discovered him back when the movie was released.

I have been fortunate enough to see PG & the PG ensemble perform Music in 12 Parts (I heard the piece twice that day: once traveling to the concert hall, and once live) as well as attend an evening of piano works by him performed by him and a series of other pianists. On my bucket list is seeing Einstein on the Beach live – easily my favourite opera.

I have been collecting his music since the early nineties, and much prefer his earlier works – his later symphonies, etc, while fine, do not, to my ear, retain the stark beauty of his younger days.

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by DonHopkins on Saturday November 26, 2022 @08:43AM (#33752569)
I wish Phillip Glass and Don Martin collaborated on an A Cappella album.

https://www.madcoversite.com/dmd-alphabetical.html

"DIKKA-DIKKA DIKKA-DAK DIKDIKDIK DAKKA DAKKA DIKKA DIKKA DIKKA DAGAK DAK DIKKADAK DIKKA DIKKA DAKDAKDAK DAKKA DAKKA DEEP DABWAK DOOTBWEET DAKKITYDAK OONT GIKKADIK DIK DOKKA DAK DEEP"

-Casey Working Laboriously On The Computer

"GLISH GLUTCH ARRAGGH YAK BLAM BLAM AWK GAROOF GAROOF WEEOOOEEEOOO BLOOM BLOOM BLAM BLAM YAGGAK WHAP WHAP ROWR GROWR RIP MANGLE GURGLE GLUK"

-Domestic Mayhem and Carnage Involving a Small Child, His Mother, a Dog and a Police Officer

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by indigodaddy on Friday November 25, 2022 @10:31PM (#33749614)
For anyone interested, Koyaanisqatsi is on sale on iTunes for $5, and the bundle with Powaqqatsi is $10. Highly recommend for anyone who’s never seen it— it’s definitely an experience. Also if it ever goes to 4K, iTunes will upgrade it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/iTunesMovieDeals/comments/z4f5qt/ko...

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by alpaca128 on Saturday November 26, 2022 @05:34AM (#33751552)
> Also if it ever goes to 4K, iTunes will upgrade it.

And if, as Sony elegantly put it, license term "evolving" happens[0], iTunes will remove it and you won't ever have access to movies you bought.

At this point I don't trust anyone to keep digital purchases. It's either on my harddrive and backup DRM free or I don't actually own it.

[0] https://www.howtogeek.com/817070/your-digital-movies-will-no...

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by 411111111111111 on Saturday November 26, 2022 @05:59AM (#33751663)
> It's either on my harddrive and backup DRM free or I don't actually own it.

It's quiet confusing that some people don't understand that, considering that's literally the name of it: digital rights management.

You only ever get a temporary permission to play a media with DRM. It's literally the reason for it's inception.

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by alpaca128 on Saturday November 26, 2022 @09:40AM (#33753011)
I don't care about the legalese, if the button says "purchase" and not "rent" then I'm going to treat it that way. If you buy a car the manufacturer can't just randomly come and take your keys because their license for the car's paint ran out. And they'd also not get away with it by giving it a fancy "rights management" name and hiding it in some agreement.

Additionally lobbies pushed our government to create what's basically a tax on all digital storage media that's included in the price, based on the assumption that companies lose out on money when I copy music from my PC to my music player etc. Which by the way is my right by law, but they decided I have to pay for that right. No, the most I'm going to do with that DRM license agreement is to wipe my ass with it.

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by 411111111111111 on Saturday November 26, 2022 @10:40AM (#33753493)
> If you buy a car the manufacturer can't just randomly come and take your keys because their license for the car's paint ran out.

Not yet, at least not for that reason.

That business model is currently being established however and the ability to remotely disabled the car from the seller/manufacturer sides has already been added on a lot of cars, especially electric ones like Tesla etc

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by StillLrning123 on Saturday November 26, 2022 @02:55AM (#33750782)
Koyaanisqatsi and Sunless by Chris Marker are movies I come back to and rediscover over and over.

Sunless can be watched on you tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdusEgrbhgA

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by iamdbtoo on Saturday November 26, 2022 @08:21AM (#33752396)
Ron Fricke's other works, namely Baraka, are also worth a watch.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103767/

Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by poulpy123 on Saturday November 26, 2022 @12:56PM (#33754938)
Chris Marker made my favourite movie: la Jetée (on youtube with english subtitles here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU99W-ZrIHQ). It was the inspiration of the movie 12 Monkeys
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by gala8y on Saturday November 26, 2022 @04:45PM (#33757099)
Thank you for mentioning Sunless. Absolutely interesting and very personal, I would say.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by JoeDaDude on Saturday November 26, 2022 @09:46AM (#33753047)
To those who complain about Koyaanisqatsi being dated, remember this film was made before such a thing as music videos existed. You might even say it was one of the first, the other being Disney's Fantasia.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by tohnjitor on Saturday November 26, 2022 @10:17AM (#33753316)
Music videos existed before Koyaanisqatsi.
Re:Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator by jfengel on Monday November 28, 2022 @03:17PM (#33778932)
For many years, Koyaanisqatsi was the marker in my Netflix DVD queue between "movies I actually want to see" and "movies that I probably ought to see one of these days but don't really want to".

Whenever Koyaanisqatsi got near the top of the list, I'd find something else to bump above it. Then some new films would come out, and it would get pushed down more.

Eventually, though, enough new stuff came out on streaming that I needed the Netflix DVD service less and less. I'd watch it occasionally... and then one day Koyaanisqatsi arrived at my door.

As expected, I didn't really care for it. Not that it isn't brilliant; it's just not my thing. I'm glad that it brings so much pleasure to some people. But I won't be adding the other two to the queue.

(And in fact it's rapidly reaching time to jettison the Netflix DVD service. There used to be many things available only that way, but it's just not the case any more. Not only have they substantially pared down their once-vast catalog, but I have realized that I'm just not a movie buff who wants a vast back catalog.)