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Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by hahamrfunnyguy on Friday November 25, 2022 @07:00PM (#33748332)
I find that amateur presenters need to work on delivery the most. Many times people speak too fast and as a result they're adding filler words, ahs and umms which make the presentation a lot more difficult to listen to. Using gestures, modulating cadence and volume can help make the presentation more engaging.
Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by bjelkeman-again on Friday November 25, 2022 @11:59PM (#33750156)
Recording yourself while practicing is really helpful, but can be painful to watch. But creates a great incentive to improve.
Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by user3939382 on Friday November 25, 2022 @07:08PM (#33748383)
I learned more in high school from debate than many other classes put together. How to write and persuade, how laws work and how to read them, confidence, organization, research, the list goes on.

If most students learned even half of what I did from debate I would make it required.

Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by lumenwrites on Friday November 25, 2022 @07:33PM (#33748571)
She seems like a really nice and smart lady, and this is a topic I'm really curious about and want to get better at, but her speech/presentation itself didn't work for me at all. Completely failed to grab my attention, I started speeding up the video, and then skimming, and finally ran out of patience and closed it without having learned anything new.

Getting to the point quickly, skipping to the most valuable and insightful points, and talking in such a way that grabs people's attention and gets them excited to hear what you have to say are essential public speaking skills, but very hard to learn.

The most captivating public speakers can speak with cadence and energy that makes every sentence entertaining, makes it impossible to stop listening (for great examples, see Max Landis' Superman pitches on youtube, or Dan Harmon's Harmontown podcast, or any good stand up comedian).

I really wish I could learn to do THAT.

Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by athrowaway12 on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:06PM (#33748790)
What I took away from their presentation:

1. They are very smart because they work on ML compilers (what are those?), but for some reason decided to work on public speaking now.

2. Something about presentations and delivery. "The medium is the message"

(Skipped ahead)

3. Here are some PowerPoint templates that are good

(Skipped ahead)

4. The end.

(Skipped back)

5. Here are some cool code editor templates, carbon, etc. They even have the MacOS 3 dots.

(Skipped forward)

6. Color palette of slides, where to get slides

(Gave up)

Where was the section about how to convey valuable information to the audience? And make arguments and how to reason?

I'm just curious: to them, what is the value in a presentation? Why is their job valuable and worth doing? These were the burning questions I had and must have skipped over the answers to.

Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by astura on Friday November 25, 2022 @09:11PM (#33749161)
This is someone that is very bad at public speaking trying to teach public speaking skills. Truly bizarre.
Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by candiddevmike on Friday November 25, 2022 @07:43PM (#33748645)
The place where I struggle with public speaking is the anticipation and the first couple of minutes. Once I'm in the flow, everything is great, but before that I'm a nervous wreck.
Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by garbanzoPDX on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:13PM (#33748828)
Totally get this. I spent over 10 years in Toastmasters to help me with a phobia of public speaking. In a much better place now but definitely still get butterflies before speaking events at work which subside quickly after I start presenting.
Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by AlbertCory on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:00PM (#33748745)
I have a Substack post on "Public Speaking for Engineers" all ready to go. I viewed this one with some trepidation: what if she's stolen all my thunder?

However, as lumenwrites hints: I soon relaxed.

It took a while to notice that her head, with headphones on, is in a tiny rectangle at the top right. At first it seems like a disembodied voice.

As athrowaway12 says: slide decks are a relic of the 90s. If you view your talk as "speaking from the slide deck" you've already lost.

Lastly, you can't get there all at once ("there" == being as good as the most captivating public speakers). All you can do starting out is be decent, have the audience not hate you, and get better with practice.

Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by athrowaway12 on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:15PM (#33748838)
Thanks for reading my comment; sorry I deleted it -- to me it didn't make sense on a second reading. I do agree with your quote from it. Definitely I got baited by this OP and made an account to rant.
Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by lumenwrites on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:05PM (#33748786)
I'd love to read it when it's published!
Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by AlbertCory on Saturday November 26, 2022 @11:24AM (#33753969)
I'm running a poll over which post comes next: that, or the one about working at Oracle 1991-98. Subscribe so you can vote! https://albertcory50.substack.com/
Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by quickthrower2 on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:13PM (#33748825)
1. Toastmasters

2. Video yourself and watch/listen

3. Some Udemy course on improving sound of voice

4. Maybe… travel to pick up extra layers of accent. I love mixed accents!

Re:The Public Speaking Skill Set by _tom_ on Saturday November 26, 2022 @02:44AM (#33750731)
And practice, practice, practice