Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System
by hombre_fatal on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @07:31PM
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Presumably, in that "Seriously, ..." quote, rather than asking an earnest question, the HNer was roleplaying their idea of the general population that's resistant to "reduce pollution" messaging.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System
by maxbond on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @07:42PM
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Maybe. I've reread the comment and it can be read either way. Worst case scenario is that my comment remains correct but tone deaf, so I'm not going to retract it, but am open to a correction if GGP chooses to offer one.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System
by fragmede on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @09:32PM
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Factories have done unmeasurable damage to our ecosystem, that is unequivocable. But we had to rename it climate change because people couldn't get over the phrase global warming whenever it was cold so I don't see "Reduce Pollution!" as a winning slogan. People who care, care about the underlying concept no matter what it's called. People who don't care don't believe it's a problem in the first place and won't do anything to reduce pollution.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System
by maxbond on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @11:38PM
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Well, I disagree with the cynicism (as I believe people are caring more & more) but my bad on misinterpreting.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System
by fragmede on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @01:07AM
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but thank you for sticking up for planet Earth!
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System
by jodrellblank on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @10:20PM
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it's not long since it was normal for rivers to set on fire:
https://history.com/news/epa-earth-day-cleveland-cuyahoga-ri...
Pardon? Factories have caused all sorts of problems with discharge, intentional or unintentional. Here's some from the top of my head:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster (mismanagement at a pesticide factory causes an explosion, poisoning many people and permanently contaminating the surrounding landscape).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease (a factory discharged mercury into the sea for years, where it interacted with anaerobic bacteria in the sediment to become incredibly deadly organic mercury and poisoned an entire town)
Keep in mind, these are from the top of my head and I am a nonexpert; we have environmental regulations because people have been hurt or killed by pollution numerous times.
Here's a quote that I hope will emphasize just how powerful pollution can be on an industrial scale:
> Pollution was so heavy at the mouth of the wastewater canal, a figure of 2 kg of mercury per ton of sediment was measured: a level that would be economically viable to mine. Indeed, Chisso did later set up a subsidiary to reclaim and sell the mercury recovered from the sludge.
They literally dumped enough mercury into the river to turn it into a mercury mine. If that doesn't convince you that factories haven't simply been operating with "nothing going wrong", then I don't know what to say.