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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by 2000UltraDeluxe on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:22PM (#33710018)
The basic premise of the article is an actual problem, though; a sizeable chunk of the population is simply unavailable as labour. This isn't just a US problem either; the situation is similar in Europe as well, including the Nordic countries despite our ever-progressive welfare systems.

It's like lot of people have simply lost hope.

Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by chasd00 on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @04:12PM (#33711586)
why would you work if you get a check in the mail regardless? Is that not obvious?
Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by Arainach on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @04:35PM (#33711848)
It is not. Plenty of people go to jobs for extra income or for satisfaction. Plenty of people who retire get bored and pick something up to pass the time.

The difference is that modern jobs aren't worth it. No pay, no discretion to make decisions, and your entire management chain feels like they're in the same boat.

Working for a small company where you're treated with respect and given a chance to grow or flexibility or whatever is one thing.

Working for a soulless corporate chain that consistently underschedules so that you're overworked and then writes you up if you want to go see your sick/dying relative is soul draining.

Working for a corporation that refuses to give you a consistent schedule but expects you to come in on your day off to cover someone else is soul draining.

Working for a corporation who will schedule you for 36 hours even though they're short workers because otherwise they might have to actually give you some garbage-tier healthcare is soul draining.

Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by yucky on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @07:24PM (#33713456)

   >The difference is that modern jobs aren't worth it.
Modern jobs are so much easier than the factory/mine/construction jobs of years past. Even the ones that still require physical labor, have huge restrictions and regulations that prevent the sort of working conditions in years past.

For all of these people complaining about "jobs these days" I would love to hear what period of history they think had it easier.

Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by thwayunion on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @09:45PM (#33714526)
> a sizeable chunk of the population is simply unavailable as labour.

That does sound like a problem. If this really is a dire problem, then let's start by forcibly disappropriating multi-generational landlords and people with trust funds of their inherited wealth, thereby forcing them to work. If that doesn't free up enough laborers to keep the machine humming, then we can start thinking about carrots and sticks for the ppors.

Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by 2000UltraDeluxe on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @03:38PM (#33724224)
The issue affects nightwatch and welfare states alike, so my first thought is that it's something else. The question is what.
Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by lostmsu on Thursday November 24, 2022 @09:39AM (#33731738)
Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by 2000UltraDeluxe on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @06:06AM (#33878037)
Sounds similar to Nietzsche's concept of "the last man". I'd require lot more proof to consider it a fact, but it seems quite plausible.