Hanami 2.0 (Ruby): Better, Faster, Stronger

Re:Hanami 2.0 (Ruby): Better, Faster, Stronger by specialp on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @09:26AM (#33706111)

It looks clean because the developers are also the people behind dry-rb. However, I made one production service in Hanami and never again. They put clean syntax above all else. This results in a TON of metaprogramming with very weird results. There were times when a variable name I was using in my code was conflicting with a method called in one of the many `instance_evals` to achieve such "dryness" I really do like the structure though with repositories for data.

Overall I think the focus with clean syntax/DSLs in Ruby projects with pervasive metaprogramming is one of the reasons the code is so hard to maintain.

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Re:Hanami 2.0 (Ruby): Better, Faster, Stronger by foundajob on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @09:39AM (#33706254)

I had a similar experience working on a large Hanami app. There's a lot of hidden complexity, but unlike with Rails nothing felt intuitive. There's a lot of emphasis on monadic thinking (see, dry-rb) without much payoff, and it's kind of a round peg/square hole deal with Ruby the language anyway. Very much a feeling of "reinventing the wheel."

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Re:Hanami 2.0 (Ruby): Better, Faster, Stronger by JohnBooty on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @09:32AM (#33706174)

    Overall I think the focus with clean syntax/DSLs 
    in Ruby projects with pervasive metaprogramming 
    is one of the reasons the code is so hard to maintain.

I don't have any opinion on Hanami and don't want to bring any negativity to the Hanami 2.0 party. Congrats to the team on this release!

However, in general, I wholeheartedly agree with your statement. Sometimes Ruby frameworks get way too cute with the metaprogramming.

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Re:Hanami 2.0 (Ruby): Better, Faster, Stronger by fhars on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:38PM (#33708463)

You might enjoy this project: https://github.com/garybernhardt/base

:-)

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Re:Hanami 2.0 (Ruby): Better, Faster, Stronger by solnic on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:30PM (#33709149)

What you're describing should've been reported as a bug because we do use metaprogramming for DSLs but the "runtime" objects are actually designed to have very minimalistic public API. I can assure you we do not put clean syntax above all else but we do like clean DSLs that reduce boilerplate

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