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Re:Justice Dept. urges Supreme Court to deny certiorari in W... by O__________O on Monday November 21, 2022 @06:59PM (#33699961)
In a filing to the Supreme Court, NSO said it should be recognized as a foreign government agent and therefore be entitled to immunity under US law limiting lawsuits against foreign countries.

Curious, did a government step forward to agree with NSO that it should be recognized as a foreign government agent? If so, is this publicly documented, and more importantly, is it material to the case?

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Re:Justice Dept. urges Supreme Court to deny certiorari in W... by Seam0nkey on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:12PM (#33700058)
The second half of paragraph 2 on page 7 of the brief:

>And no foreign state has supported NSO’s claim to immunity; indeed, NSO has not even identified the states for which it claims to have acted as an agent.

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Re:Justice Dept. urges Supreme Court to deny certiorari in W... by encryptluks2 on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:34PM (#33700258)
It is obvious but they don't want to say the quiet part out loud, but want the politicians and justices in their pocket to still rule in their favor.
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Re:Justice Dept. urges Supreme Court to deny certiorari in W... by tptacek on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:41PM (#33700320)
Maybe you should say the quiet part out loud, instead of having us guess at what you mean by the innuendo.
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Re:Justice Dept. urges Supreme Court to deny certiorari in W... by mwerd on Monday November 21, 2022 @08:00PM (#33700459)
Israel, where NSO group is headquartered, surely.
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Re:Justice Dept. urges Supreme Court to deny certiorari in W... by compsciphd on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @07:10AM (#33704881)
except, that's probably not their claim.

their claim is that they are agents for their client states (which in none (or at least the vast majority) of the publicized cases) has been Israel. i.e. it was state sponsored espionage, where they were the state's agent (be it saudi, or any other state).

Personally, I don't see how this claim works, if a foreign govt pays someone to spy, that person still goes to jail if they get caught.

also as the justice dept came out against their claim, it would seem they dont really have much of anyone "in their pocket".

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Re:Justice Dept. urges Supreme Court to deny certiorari in W... by cogman10 on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:09PM (#33700040)
As the DoJ points out, the NSO needs to argue which government they represent (and they have not) which makes it silly to claim immunity.

The NSO is basically saying "just trust us, we represent a government or two".

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Re:Justice Dept. urges Supreme Court to deny certiorari in W... by KptMarchewa on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:07PM (#33700020)
The opposite.
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