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Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by zosima on Monday November 21, 2022 @11:18AM (#33694237)
It's interesting that the good fight for LGBTQ+ is given up as soon as there is a place with actual LGBTQ+ repression and powerful resistance.

What then is this signalling for?

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by athrow on Monday November 21, 2022 @11:28AM (#33694386)
The West, I can suggest The War on the West by Douglas Murray - it explains this phenomenon very well.
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by skyyler on Monday November 21, 2022 @11:58AM (#33694817)
I find it mildly concerning that fresh accounts with on here seem to be pushing alt-right conspiracy stuff.

My take on Douglas Murray: he didn't understand Foucault, got mad about it, and decided Foucault is an evil Marxist. It kind of rhymes with Jordan Peterson's sentiments about the boogeyman of postmodernism.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by everybodyknows on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:19PM (#33695126)
My take on Douglas Murray, based on first paragraph of the Introduction of The War on the West: ... a cultural war, and it is being waged remorselessly ...

The man doesn't know the difference between "remorseless" and "relentless".

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by pannSun on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:37PM (#33695380)
Why do you believe "remorseless" can't be used there? You are certain that Douglas Murray thinks the attackers in this alleged war are showing remorse?
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by helloharvey on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:12PM (#33695005)
As far as accounts go you really don’t have a choice on HN, because eventually you’ll get flagged enough to get throttled/suspended and eventually banned for being too controversial, not following groupthink, etc. Between Theranos and pandemic we’ve got a good corpus of what that looks like, and I don’t have 3-4 years to get my commentary vindicated by the same paid news actors that are causing this shit to begin with.

No offense to the mods, but community “guidelines” translates into skewed application.

As for Douglas Murray, the reviews for his books aged like fine wine.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by skyyler on Monday November 21, 2022 @01:33PM (#33696107)
There's plenty of people here with accounts older than a decade. I think this is a "you" problem.
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by helloharvey on Monday November 21, 2022 @01:41PM (#33696211)
I have such an account. But HN requires burner accounts all the same.
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by dragonwriter on Monday November 21, 2022 @01:42PM (#33696220)
> But HN requires burner accounts all the same.

No, it really doesn’t. They are a poor substitute for self-awareness.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by helloharvey on Monday November 21, 2022 @02:53PM (#33697071)
It does. It would be nice if controversial statements, said in good faith, were not downvoted and flagged, but thats not a reality on HN.

Much easier to make burners, say what’s on one’s mind, and move on.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by dragonwriter on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:14PM (#33697332)
> It does.

Having never used a burner, been on here a little over a decade, been on the unpopular side of many arguments here, having never had a ban, and being #17 on the leaderboard, I’m pretty confident that HN does not, in fact, require burners.

> Much easier to make burners, say what’s on one’s mind, and move on.

Yes, its a lot easier to use burners than think about how you are engaging and presenting your views.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by helloharvey on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:13PM (#33698010)
Most of us at the end of the day don’t care, certainly not enough to keep track of a leaderboard of this site LMAO.

As I said, use a burner, post and move on. Let the haters do their thing.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by skyyler on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:13PM (#33697309)
So you're not afraid of making controversial statements, but you're afraid to have them attached to your handle?

It sounds like you're a coward, honestly.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by helloharvey on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:12PM (#33697997)
Oh no!
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by skyyler on Monday November 21, 2022 @01:44PM (#33696243)
It brings me much joy to know that I've never had to deal with this sort of thing.
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by athrow on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:46PM (#33695503)
I don't find categorizing something as "alt-right conspiracy stuff" is a serious rebuttal. Since you've complained about the fresh accounts perhaps you should also consider reading through the comments guidelines yourself (your comment is easily violating the top 6): https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by skyyler on Monday November 21, 2022 @01:40PM (#33696191)
I added some context on why he's a hack, which is plenty interesting.

I do genuinely believe he didn't understand the work of Foucault.

I also do genuinely believe he's personal friends with the prime minister of Hungary which should tell you everything you need to know about his politics.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by helloharvey on Monday November 21, 2022 @11:31AM (#33694431)
Signalling from men’s side has always been to get laid. From women’s, to gain power/dominance over men.

Crass commentary from me, I know. It’s a tale as old as time.

Edit: to drive this point home, look at which actors in the West are prominently signalling, especially those with political pull, and then look at the conditions they live in and the company they really surround themselves with. What income bracket are they in? Who are they married to? Who are their real neighbours and peers? It speaks for itself.

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by lm28469 on Monday November 21, 2022 @11:52AM (#33694736)
Strong with the weak, weak is the strong

Western Europe's motto since ww2

Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by YellowStuDregg on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:51PM (#33695568)
the people shooting up gay night clubs?
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by GameOfFrowns on Monday November 21, 2022 @01:33PM (#33696102)
In the case of the recent gay club shooting in Colorado Springs, wasn't the shooter a gay "incel" man himself?
Re:European teams ditch pro-LGBTQ+ armbands at Qatar World Cup by gumby on Monday November 21, 2022 @02:31PM (#33696812)
It's interesting that the good fight for LGBTQ+ is given up as soon as it threatens revenue.