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Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by thayne on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:18AM (#33689088)
Well, the verbification of the word google introduces its own difficulties there.

The ideal would be for the voice assistant to have some completely unique word, ideally with sound combinations that are very rare in your native language. And if for some reason, that still doesn't work for you, have a way to change it. Or maybe just not have a default, and require users to pick their own keyword.

Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by happymellon on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:56AM (#33689339)
> Computer! Earl Grey. Hot.

I can't think of many words that rhyme with computer so would get picked up.

Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by pbhjpbhj on Monday November 21, 2022 @01:18AM (#33689449)
Muh brand identity/recognition though.

There aren't many legitimate ways to have people audibly self hypnotise themselves using your brand.

It's very black mirror.

Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by DangitBobby on Monday November 21, 2022 @02:19AM (#33689782)
My roommate had an Alexa and we changed the wake word to computer... Didn't last long. Apparently the word computer comes up on casual conversation much more than you probably think.
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by billpg on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:41AM (#33690696)
Welcome to the life of someone actually called Alexa.
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by deafpolygon on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:56AM (#33689340)
"you should google that!"

" I don't understand your query. "

Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by benwad on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:31AM (#33690629)
Ok Google, Google "Google"
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by another-dave on Monday November 21, 2022 @08:52AM (#33692454)
The 21st century version of Buffalo buffalo buffalo...
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by withinboredom on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:49AM (#33690757)
In English, there’s only one word in the entire language with a ts sound (pizza) that’s not at the end. They probably could have come up with a name utilizing that fact, making wake words super “easy” to recognize and hard to accidentally say.
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by YurgenJurgensen on Monday November 21, 2022 @05:42AM (#33691083)
Just off the top of my head, depending on accent or dialect: "spritzer", "waltzer", "Mitsubishi", "matzos", "mitzvah".
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by eesmith on Monday November 21, 2022 @06:46AM (#33691506)
A fun code challenge! I started with https://github.com/Alexir/CMUdict/blob/master/cmudict-0.7b as a list of words with pronunciation. It has:

  PIZZA  P IY1 T S AH0
Looks like I can search for " T S " to find the "ts sound that's not at the end"

  % grep " T S " cmudict-0.7b | wc -l
       991
Some of the non-proper nouns include ACCOUNTANCY, ANTSY, and ARTSY. I'll assume this is too close to the end to count, so require two sounds after the " T S ":

  % grep -E " T S [A-Z0-9]+ [A-Z0-9]+" cmudict-0.7b | wc -l
       853
These include: bestseller, blitzkrieg, boatswain, bootstrap, chutzpah, craftsman, draftsmanship, footstep, hotspot, itself, jetstream, outscore, outsell, outside, postscript, shirtsleeve, shortstop, sportsmanship, statesmen, tsar, tsunami, whatsoever, yachtsman, and zeitgeist.

(It doesn't have "spritzer" in the list, and uses the spelling "matzoh" instead of "matzo". I didn't look for a more complete list of word pronunciations.)

Finally, two words with two occurrences of the "ts" sound, neither at the end:

  % grep -E " T S .*T S " cmudict-0.7b
  ITSY-BITSY  IH2 T S IY0 B IH1 T S IY0
  TSETSE  T S IY1 T S IY0
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by YurgenJurgensen on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:27AM (#33691776)
"Zeitgeist" seems like a bug, I've never heard anyone pronounce the leading 'z' as 'ˈts' in English, and doing so as a non-German might even be seen as 'over-pronuciation'.
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by eesmith on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:37AM (#33691842)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zeitgeist#Pronunciation gives two pronunciations:

Pronunciation (Received Pronunciation, General American) IPA(key): /ˈtsaɪtˌɡaɪst/, /ˈzaɪtˌɡaɪst/

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zeitgeist also gives two: ˈtsīt-ˌgīst ˈzīt-

I tried to get statistics from listening to https://youglish.com/pronounce/zeitgeist/english? but found I have a hard time distinguishing the two forms.

Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by sph on Monday November 21, 2022 @08:50AM (#33692436)
"boatswain" should be pronounced "bosun".
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by eesmith on Monday November 21, 2022 @10:03AM (#33693288)
You're right. Though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain says "formerly and dialectally also /ˈboʊtsweɪn/ BOHT-swayn", the dictionaries I checked do not list that alternative.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/boatswain even comments:

> Phonetic spelling bo'sun/bosun is attested from 1840. Fowler [1926] writes, "The nautical pronunciation (bō'sn) has become so general that to avoid it is more affected than to use it."

Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by withinboredom on Monday November 21, 2022 @06:05PM (#33699441)
Most of the examples you gave are compound words, or made through suffixes and who knows, maybe my Russian teacher told a lie!
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by eesmith on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @04:09AM (#33703684)
It certainly seems your Russian teacher wasn't fond of schnitzel nor seltzer.
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by withinboredom on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:34PM (#33709234)
I was literally laughing so hard from this comment. Thanks for brightening my day.
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by denton-scratch on Monday November 21, 2022 @06:05AM (#33691245)
Seems implausible.

~ Fatso

~ Pitstop

~ Katsup

~ Yachtsman

~ Scotsmen

~ Batsman

There don't seem to be many, admittedly.

Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by xnorswap on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:53AM (#33690782)
That fact seems dubious, does tzatziki not count?
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by eCa on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:27AM (#33691771)
Is tzatziki the only word that both starts and contains, but doesn’t end, with ts sound?
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by eesmith on Monday November 21, 2022 @07:27AM (#33691778)
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by denton-scratch on Monday November 21, 2022 @08:24AM (#33692198)
Tzatziki, Tsetse and Tzar are not English words; OP said there was just one English word (which he identified as "pizza", which isn't an English word).
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by xnorswap on Monday November 21, 2022 @08:30AM (#33692252)
It has foreign roots but it's surely an English word by any workable definition.
Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by eesmith on Monday November 21, 2022 @02:18PM (#33696628)
And "tsetse" has been used in English for nearly 100 years longer than pizza - the latter only really introduced because of Allied soldiers sent to in Italy.

Google Ngram says it wasn't until the 1970s when "pizza" was more commonly used than "tsetse." https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=tsetse%2Cpizza... . Or from BoingBoing today, "North Americans feared and misunderstood pizza in the 1950s" - https://boingboing.net/2022/11/21/north-americans-feared-and... .

Re:“Username cannot contain 'clyde'” by ConceptJunkie on Monday November 21, 2022 @12:00PM (#33694839)
That is trivially not true.