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Re:South Africa's national electricity crisis to worsen by liampulles on Sunday November 20, 2022 @04:05PM (#33685289)
Eish, glad I bought an inverter that can withstand a 4h loadshedding block instead of a 2h one, but the economic and societal implications of this are pretty horrifying.

Curious if there any SA expats here that can comment on their experience of emigrating? I have looked a bit but not very seriously. I should mention I do have a Netherlands passport (via my father).

Re:South Africa's national electricity crisis to worsen by throwawaaaylkt on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:01PM (#33688190)
I emigrated to Australia from Johannesburg (northern suburbs). It's safe, the economy is strong with low unemployment and high wages, there's good healthcare (similar to the NHI that's planned for SA) and education, and it's easy enough to fit in culturally. But it's NOT a "cleaner and safer version of South Africa" - it's definitely a foreign country, which is why Pick n Pay and Woolworths SA have come to grief for that reason when expanding here.

The downside is that there is a severe housing crisis, and labour is in seriously short supply. I'm in Brisbane, and you can't eat out here after 8PM because everything is closed. Shops close early. Our car was smashed by a reckless driver in early November....it's going to be January before they even start fixing it...doing any kind of renovation or home repair is a traumatic experience because of a shortage of people (you can't do your own plumbing or electrical BTW).

I would not live in Sydney or Melbourne because of the high cost of housing, especially Sydney, since I'd probably live in some unpleasant, boiling hot suburb far west of the city to get anything I could afford.

No domestic workers is another pain point, although you adapt.

I'd say that if you have children, it might be worth emigrating from SA for their sakes, but if you don't have kids, and since you have an EU passport, it's entirely down to your preferences. The quality of life in South Africa for upper-middle-class people is pretty good. Anecdotally, many Australians move to places like Thailand or Bali for the sort of lifestyle South Africans enjoy. If you have a home paid for in SA, you can use your savings to travel overseas for relief from the load shedding and crime: I know a few SA upper middle class people who can afford to do that, while I have to pump every spare cent into my mortgage.

Am I happy I moved? Yes. Would I have done it if I didn't have a family....probably not.

Re:South Africa's national electricity crisis to worsen by herodoturtle on Monday November 21, 2022 @01:36AM (#33689542)
Some great perspective here, thanks for sharing.
Re:South Africa's national electricity crisis to worsen by liampulles on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:38AM (#33690674)
Great response, thanks very much!

I will probably travel a bit to see.

Re:South Africa's national electricity crisis to worsen by TMWNN on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:13AM (#33702623)
>Curious if there any SA expats here that can comment on their experience of emigrating? I have looked a bit but not very seriously. I should mention I do have a Netherlands passport (via my father).

You haven't looked seriously because of the Netherlands passport. You know that you always have a way out.

Those without such put much more effort into potentially improving their situation, because they have to.