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Re:Nord Stream leaks confirmed as sabotage, Sweden says by Mikeb85 on Saturday November 19, 2022 @12:40PM (#33672444)
> Russia had the most to lose.

Russia has the most to gain because they'll simply sell the natural gas to Asia or through another pipeline, meanwhile they want to pressure Europe into not supporting Ukraine any longer.

The Ukraine war could literally end modern Russia as we know it, more defeats and the entire current government and structure could collapse. If somehow they survive the war, years of sanctions will. The Ukraine war is an existential threat for the Putin government...

And that's not even counting the fact they love false flags and blaming others...

Re:Nord Stream leaks confirmed as sabotage, Sweden says by MichaelCollins on Saturday November 19, 2022 @01:00PM (#33672722)
> they'll simply sell the natural gas to Asia or through another pipeline

Which pipeline? They don't have pipelines to Asia that can handle the gas they meant to send through Nordstream.

Re:Nord Stream leaks confirmed as sabotage, Sweden says by hollerith on Saturday November 19, 2022 @01:01PM (#33672734)
>they'll simply sell the natural gas to Asia

That would require either pipelines or port facilities for loading LNG transport ships in Russia and in China, either of which would take years to implement.

The gas fields are in North-Western Siberia, which is closer to Europe than to China.

Re:Nord Stream leaks confirmed as sabotage, Sweden says by Mikeb85 on Saturday November 19, 2022 @01:44PM (#33673246)
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Map-of-oil-and-gas-pipel...

Keep in mind Turkey and Caucasian nations are in Asia...

Re:Nord Stream leaks confirmed as sabotage, Sweden says by hollerith on Saturday November 19, 2022 @02:07PM (#33673470)
I see the map. What is your point?
Re:Nord Stream leaks confirmed as sabotage, Sweden says by foverzar on Saturday November 19, 2022 @02:25PM (#33673677)
> Russia has the most to gain because they'll simply sell the natural gas to Asia or through another pipeline

No, not really, how do you suppose this would work?

There is a pipeline A to Europe, and pipeline B to Asia. Both operational at production capacity.

How something happening with pipeline A would suddenly positively affect pipeline B?

> meanwhile they want to pressure Europe into not supporting Ukraine any longer.

By killing the only leverage it had on Europe? How would that work?

> And that's not even counting the fact they love false flags and blaming others...

Is that fact, though? Could you elaborate, what are you referring to specifically?

I've noticed it became a popular idea over the last few years, but I never really managed to figure out the grounds for it.