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Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by guelo on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:40PM (#33666215)
You're wrong about the reasons why but you're still right that it's irresponsible to have kids before going to prison.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by bmitc on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:50PM (#33666292)
What reasons am I wrong about?
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by guelo on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:55PM (#33666333)
Parole being part of the calculus
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by bmitc on Saturday November 19, 2022 @12:15AM (#33667185)
That was only one which was already corrected.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by rayiner on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:53PM (#33666312)
She’s a mid-30s woman looking at a decade in prison. It was either now or never.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by tptacek on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:03PM (#33666399)
That makes a lot of sense, and a lot of what people are saying about her family planning decisions read pretty ghoulish to me.

She has a big, supportive family. Her kids will be fine. People write like the kid is going to be raised in a USP, like Bane from Batman.

Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by Aeolun on Saturday November 19, 2022 @01:43AM (#33667661)
Fine’ish. I doubt it’s healty to grow up knowing your mother isn’t there because she’s in prison.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by tptacek on Saturday November 19, 2022 @02:12AM (#33667828)
They're going to be taken care of by a big, well-off extended family, as hundreds of generations of children have been prior to the modern invention of the nuclear family (hey, Rayiner, remember all the threads about this?). Then, sometime between 1st and 4th grade, depending on how First Step applies to Holmes, they'll also have their mother at home full time rather than visiting her a couple times a month.

They'll be fine. Lots and lots of kids have it actually hard, because their mom is sent away when they're 5 or 6. Here? No problem. I think she's a sociopath, but her family planning decision makes perfect sense, and the people writing comments about how callous or irresponsible she is are telling on themselves in a particular weird way.

Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by ddorian43 on Saturday November 19, 2022 @03:05AM (#33668123)
Yeah, good luck to the kid with that kind of mother. No matter how you spin it, the kid will suffer because of the mother.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by aetherane on Saturday November 19, 2022 @01:59PM (#33673395)
It is not uncommon for kids to have a father in prison growing up.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by klipt on Saturday November 19, 2022 @12:26AM (#33667245)
Or egg freezing.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by tptacek on Saturday November 19, 2022 @02:12AM (#33667832)
Don't be creepy.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by pnut on Saturday November 19, 2022 @08:27AM (#33669840)
Embryo freezing is a miraculous, perfectly viable option for women desiring children, but unable to commit to pregnancy for whatever reason until they are too old. It decouples the embryo viability from the mother's physical age.

My wife was forced down this route when diagnosed with cancer at 35 - the chemo and radiation killed all her eggs and forced her into a mandatory regime of chemically induced menopause. The presence of estrogen in her body is now a life threatening condition for the rest of her life.

We were able to freeze three embryos prior to starting treatment, and are considering surrogacy now.

Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by tptacek on Saturday November 19, 2022 @01:03PM (#33672764)
There is nothing creepy about egg freezing. There is something very creepy about telling a woman that she should freeze her eggs rather than having a kid, because you've decided that's more appropriate.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by klipt on Saturday November 19, 2022 @05:36PM (#33675577)
Nobody said she "should" freeze her eggs, and the fact that you jumped to that assumption is extremely creepy.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to more than 11 years for f... by qwytw on Saturday November 19, 2022 @03:57AM (#33668408)
Her husband is wealthy, her family is too. I'm sure the child will be fine compared to almost every other child who's parent went to prison. To be honest I think psychological development wise it's probably preferable if the child is 0-6 when their mother goes to prison than let's say 6-12.