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Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by rrdharan on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:09PM (#33660311)
[infrastructure bias]

Kubernetes and TensorFlow should count, and are successful.

AlloyDB is IMO most likely to be successful (especially since AWS Aurora already proved the market): https://cloud.google.com/alloydb

Since this question seems to be much more about the consumer side, I think both Google Home and YouTube TV are independently considered successful though I have no doubt many people will chime in to note how much they hate either or both of those things.

Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by wanderingstan on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:39PM (#33660850)
As a user, I can say that Google home has become a dumpster fire after starting out rather well. I’ve sworn off buying any future Google hardware.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by lake_vincent on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:14PM (#33660411)
It's interesting how legacy companies are not making exciting consumer/commercial products anymore, but infrastructure and technical projects are booming.

Google TensorFlow and DeepMind, Microsoft WSL2, Meta AI, etc. Also worth mentioning the many quiet efforts to get quantum computing off the ground.

Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by formercoder on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:18PM (#33660498)
I work at Google, but just want to say that AlloyDB is really cool.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by davewritescode on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:47PM (#33660973)
Seems like Google's version of AWS Aurora?
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by formercoder on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:55PM (#33661107)
I don’t know the details of Aurora, but AlloyDB separates compute and storage for Postgres. Masters can scale up and down with no downtime, and storage is provisioned in real time. Only pay for what you use. There is also a columnar engine cache, basically BigQuery, for OLAP queries.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by Vt71fcAqt7 on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:28PM (#33661557)
Interesting. Does it scale to zero like neon.tech supposedly can? Or does it always run a small daily fee of a few cents like Aurora? It wasn't immediately clear from the product page.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by formercoder on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:55PM (#33662912)
I don’t think so, from what I’ve seen it’s a premium price to Cloud SQL.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by makestuff on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:18PM (#33661433)
Yeah that is similar to Aurora. Basically a query engine on top of S3. Not sure if it is based on postgres or not though. It wouldn't shock me if it was as I know AWS Redshift is a forked version of postgres.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by formercoder on Saturday November 19, 2022 @01:43PM (#33673236)
Redshift is a columnar database like BigQuery, so wouldn’t be based on an OLTP DB like Postgres. More I work for Google disclosures, but I think BQ kicks Redshifts butt.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by makestuff on Saturday November 19, 2022 @04:44PM (#33675101)
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34853204/is-aws-redshift...

Looks like I was mistaken. It uses some parts of postgres 8, but it is heavily modified. I agree Redshift isn’t that great though and it is super expensive for what you get. In the past when I have used Redshift I have not been that impressed.

Although one nice feature of Redshift is how well it works with other AWS services (COPY command from S3, firehouse can dump data into it, etc.)

Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by plorkyeran on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:11PM (#33660355)
Kubernetes isn't a product.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by rrdharan on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:12PM (#33660379)
Strongly disagree.

Kubernetes is not a Google product. But it is "a" product, and it was successfully launched as a commoditize-your-complement / cannibalize-yourself kind of thing.

GKE meanwhile is a Google product, and is successful, and wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Kubernetes.

Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by prepend on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:28PM (#33660667)
How do I buy kubernetes?
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by prng2021 on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:35PM (#33660787)
How do you buy Google search?
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by coryrc on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:37PM (#33660823)
Adwords
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by prng2021 on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:51PM (#33661047)
Just because you have the option to pay for a free service isn't the criteria for being a product. There are tons of managed kubernetes services you can pay for just like you can pay for managed redis or elasticsearch.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by andruby on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:57PM (#33661134)
Pay for the managed version on Google Cloud?
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by prepend on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:19PM (#33664262)
That’s the product. Not kubernetes. Amazon and Azure offer kuberbetes too.
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by dangus on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:05PM (#33661264)
What about GKE?
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by kro on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:36PM (#33660806)
Flutter also comes to mind
Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by grepLeigh on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:18PM (#33660508)
My most basic definition of a product is:

Something I can insert money into, which solves a more expensive problem.

Kubernetes and TensorFlow are extraordinary technologies - and very important to the work I do daily. I don't think they're products though, certainly not successful products.

Re:Ask HN: Will Google Ever Launch a Successful New Product ... by rrdharan on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:22PM (#33660581)
> Something I can insert money into, which solves a more expensive problem.

Right. I would argue that "public cloud infrastructure" is such a product; GCP/AWS/Azure specifically. (See below also) Kubernetes enabled the existence of EKS/AKS/GKE all of which I believe are considered successful.

Separately, TensorFlow enabled Azure Machine Learning, TensorFlow on AWS and Google Cloud TensorFlow Enterprise, and generally expanded (IMO) the market for IaaS.