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Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by sam36 on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:08PM (#33657811)
Perhaps I am just dumb... but I'm not following anything you are saying. If Christ had to die to be a sacrifice, how is someone turning him in make it a "plot hole"?? Who else would it occur, just by chance?
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by ben_w on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:12PM (#33657891)
The problem isn't that Judas turned him in, it's that this is somehow a bad thing.
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by aerostable_slug on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:25PM (#33658146)
The fulfillment of the process wasn't bad, but Judas was. It's not like he was in on the whole plan.
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by ben_w on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:25PM (#33665076)
Except the bit I quoted kinda implies he was told to do it by Jesus (or both Jesus and Satan):

> After he received the piece of bread, Satan entered into him. Jesus said to him, “Do quickly what you are going to do.”

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by boomboomsubban on Friday November 18, 2022 @08:41PM (#33665789)
From my recollection of Catholic school, Judas was tempted into being the betrayer, but his legacy as the betrayer is due to his abandoning his faith in Jesus and refusing to confess his sins. Both Judas and Peter are supposed to have betrayed Jesus on Good Friday, but Peter repented while Judas let his guilt drive him to suicide.

The message is supposed to be the devil tempts us all, and failure is inevitable, but God/Jesus forgives all.

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by collegeburner on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:26PM (#33661543)
right thing, wrong reasons. selling someone out is still morally wrong even if it all works out in the end.
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by whimsicalism on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:55PM (#33662029)
By your logic, the predator in To Catch A Predator is not doing a bad thing.
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by ben_w on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:22PM (#33665047)
I see zero in common at every level, unless you wish to count the name "Chris".