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Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by NKosmatos on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:23AM (#33657004)
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system :

“The SI has been adopted as the official system of weights and measures by all nations in the world except for Myanmar, Liberia, and the United States.”

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by thechao on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:37AM (#33657234)
Weird:

> https://usma.org/laws-and-bills/metric-conversion-act-of-197...

> https://usma.org/laws-and-bills/executive-order-12770

The US government hasn't been great in converting US industry to metric. But ... it's a bit disingenuous to say we didn't even try.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by anonporridge on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:54AM (#33657554)
I believe we have Ronald Reagan to thank for cancelling our efforts from the 70s.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by krallja on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:18PM (#33658011)
A ronna-Reagan is 10^27 Reagans.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by jerf on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:30PM (#33658251)
One ronna-reagan is approximately 4% of the sun's mass: https://www.google.com/search?q=%28185+pounds%29+*+10%5E27+%...

At least if I have that right. A single Reagan's mass is from: https://www.celebheights.com/s/Ronald-Reagan-1750.html

Or, if you prefer, our sun as about 25 ronna-Reagans.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by SuoDuanDao on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:15PM (#33659148)
weird question for anyone with the relevant knowledge, would 25 ronna-Reagans in one place behave differently than our sun? I know that mass would be mostly oxygen, but at that scale does it matter?
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by smueller1234 on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:36PM (#33659584)
You should ask Randall Munroe! :)

http://what-if.xkcd.com

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by jerf on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:38PM (#33661753)
He did something pretty close early on: https://what-if.xkcd.com/4/
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by nkrisc on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:43PM (#33661836)
Are you asking in terms of gravitation or as a star?

By mass, the sun is 71% Hydrogen and 27.1% Helium, the last 1.9% or so being heavier elements (much of that being oxygen.

I’m no expert, but I suspect a mass of 25 ronna-Reagans would not make a very good star. I imagine it might collapse into a dense Oxygen and Carbon rich sphere, and in that environment various chemical reactions might turn it into some other kind of material.

But maybe I’m way off.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by saltcured on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:58PM (#33662948)
And 1 ronna-mcdonald's is over 9.9e37 served!
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by horsawlarway on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:28PM (#33658202)
Correct. If you compare the attitudes between Carter and Reagan - the difference is incredibly stark.

Say what you will about his impact in office - but I genuinely believe Carters' loss to Reagan is one of the defining moments of the country.

Landslide loss in electoral votes - modest loss of popular vote. In my opinion - largely because Carter angered his own party by taking relatively sane and nuanced stances on complex issues, with a very forward looking attitude. (TLDR - he was undermining the American Military-Indutrial complex, which is great for the American people, but bad for business)

Regardless of his impact in politics - Carter is one of the few presidents I find it very hard to not respect, even if for nothing but his efforts after his presidency.

Reagan deserves to rot in hell. What a trash pit of a man. He did basically entire the opposite of Carter - Cut non-military spending, increased military spending, undermined the EPA, led directly to the S&L crisis with cuts to regulation on finance, tried to enforce an anti-abortion federal law, tried to overturn desegregation laws, started the war on drugs, on and on and on.

The man should go down as literally one of the worst things to ever happen to the US (so far - the same group is angling to get back into power today in the republican party).

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by coliveira on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:36PM (#33661727)
Raegan was a complete walking disgrace. But the media was very kind to him, if you don't investigate carefully what he was doing you'll believe that he was a great president. The only explanation I see is that he was fantastic for the war industry and gave everything the very rich were expecting in terms of fiscal policy.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by Normille on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:44AM (#33657390)
The US has adopted new equivalents for these: the eleventy-billion-squillion-sixty-fourths of an inch and the super-awesome-home-run-pound-quart
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by GordonS on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:26PM (#33658161)
> eleventy-billion-squillion-sixty-fourths of an inch

Or, for short, the Freedom Inch!

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by anonporridge on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:48AM (#33657465)
Indirectly false.

Even though we don't use metric directly in most cases in the US, the US customary units have long been rebased to be defined by metric units.

Inches and pounds are just centimeters and newtons walking around in a whacky outfit.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by kibwen on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:32PM (#33660738)
Specifically, this happened in 1893: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendenhall_Order
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by kevin_thibedeau on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:05PM (#33663037)
The inch wasn't converted to a derived metric unit in the US until 1959. This creates an issue for precision machinery manufactured before the redefinition because the slight difference is enough to matter where allowed to accumulate.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by MiddleEndian on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:57PM (#33666343)
If only some governing body had been aggressive enough to redefine NTSC 60Hz as actually 60 fps.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by kevin_thibedeau on Saturday November 19, 2022 @12:06AM (#33667138)
It was 60fps. Color required an adjustment to prevent stationary artifacts.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by MiddleEndian on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:47AM (#33671172)
Right, but they should've put in the work to redo things back then so we wouldn't have to deal with stupid refresh rates now lol
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by unwind on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:31PM (#33662564)
Well, isn't that by definition true for any system of measurements? I mean, as long as we're talking about a simple straight-line distance in some real-dimensional space, it's going to be possible to measure that distance in meters (or yards, or whatever). Yes I know about fractal lengths, coastlines and so on.

I think the point is that the US customary units are typically used in a very different way, with fractions being way more important than in metric. See the image in this [1] article that talks about drill sizes for DIY use, for instance. You guys go like "oh no the 5/16:ths hole is too small, I'll step up to 19/64ths that should do it". Over here in metric-world we go more like "oh no the 7.9 mm drill was too small, I'll step up to 8 mm".

Again, the fact that it's easy to convert the 5/16:ths to 7.9375 mm is not the point, the point is how the decimal/metric units are used in practice.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by aidenn0 on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:16PM (#33663181)
> Well, isn't that by definition true for any system of measurements? I mean, as long as we're talking about a simple straight-line distance in some real-dimensional space, it's going to be possible to measure that distance in meters (or yards, or whatever). Yes I know about fractal lengths, coastlines and so on.

The US yard is exactly 0.9144m such a short decimal expansion is highly unlikely when selecting two random units of measurements. It is short because we defined the modern yard in terms of meters, selecting a short decimal expansion that was still "close enough" to the old definition to allow tooling to remain the same.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by anonporridge on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:55PM (#33664766)
No. It's true because 1 inch is explicitly defined by the governing body as 2.54 cm, whereas one meter is defined as "the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 of a second". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre

The units of the metric system are defined by physical properties that appear to be constant throughout the universe.

The units of the US customary system are defined as some exact number of equivalent metric units.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by programmer_dude on Saturday November 19, 2022 @09:03PM (#33677324)
This is meaningless. Everything is metric and nonmetric at the same time by this definition since you can always find a linear equation which let's you convert between the systems.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by nwb99 on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:53AM (#33657547)
I believe the US legally defines the US customary units by metric counterparts anyway. https://www.nist.gov/pml/owm/si-units-length

Still, I'm probably the 1% of 1% of Americans who uses Celsius in daily life, except where I cannot (my car won't let me do hybrid miles and Celsius, ugh).

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by Symbiote on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:33PM (#33659510)
Celsius and miles would be the British localisation for a car, if that's available.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by kyawzazaw on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:39PM (#33658432)
We use the Metric System quite frequently in Myanmar.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by Symbiote on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:21PM (#33659291)
If you can find official and unofficial references, it would be helpful to allow the article to be updated.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by rootusrootus on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:03PM (#33662144)
And the UK, unless for some reason their official speed limits and such aren't actually, you know, official.

As a practical matter, we use metric for many things in the US. The fact that we do not force everyone to change their customary units to metric really seems to irk some folks, but mostly outside the US.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by orf on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:31PM (#33662574)
Uk is metric, but we do use a mix. Speed limits are still in mph, and we rarely if ever use kilometres for distances. Height is in ft and inches, and your own weight is in stones/pounds. All other weights are in grams and kg, except for some larger ones (industrial/shipping) which are in tonnes. Pints are used only for… pints, everything else is in ml. And, the best, is “football pitches” which is often used by the news to describe large (but not too large) lengths.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by MayeulC on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:38PM (#33663561)
But do you use metric tonnes (1000 kg) and "metric" pints (½ litre, not actually metric, but in use for drinks in metric countries)?
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by orf on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:41PM (#33663635)
Probably metric tonnes, not sure, it’s just “a lot” when it’s used colloquially. Pints are imperial for drinks, 568ml.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by nicoburns on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:32PM (#33665169)
We use metric tonnes.

For pints (only really used for beer and milk), we still use an imperial pint but it's officially specified in millilitres (568ml) and this will always be printed on packaging.

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by DharmaPolice on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:02PM (#33664025)
My favourite bit of nonsense is signs for distance for walkers. Distances are usually in miles or fractions of miles but for indicating things really close by (e.g. toilets round the corner) we switch to metres.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by BillinghamJ on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:02PM (#33664842)
I've found that it's becoming increasingly common to use metric for height and weight also - particularly with younger people etc.

I think we'll soon be left with the only remaining imperial bits being speed, long distances, and pints of beer - none of which seem likely to go away any time soon

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by augusto-moura on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:29PM (#33662533)
There a few exceptions here and there, but the UK uses the metric system wherever it can, including speed limits in some locations.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by orf on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:43PM (#33663671)
Where does it use it for speed limits? All our cars have speedometers in mph. I’ve never seen a speed limit sign that uses kmph
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by shirleyquirk on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:59PM (#33663960)
I've seen an 8kph limit on inland waterways. But it was very unusual to see
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by orf on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:02PM (#33664016)
Oh right, yeah. In canals it’s kmph.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by NeoTar on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:26PM (#33662497)
The UK is (still) officially metric, just with a few exceptions - speed limits being one of them.
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by Wohlf on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:42PM (#33662728)
Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by wnevets on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:29PM (#33662539)
Except the US uses the Metric system

> U.S. customary units have been defined in terms of metric units since the 19th century, and the SI has been the "preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce" since 1975 according to United States law.[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_the_United_Stat...

Re:Earth now weighs six ronnagrams: New metric prefixes vote... by DiggyJohnson on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:29PM (#33665129)
This seems offtopic and flame war bait, especially posted without additional commentary.