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Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by nicoburns on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:15AM (#33656860)
> Few other predators take the same trouble to ensure their prey is beyond suffering before beginning to eat.

I'd argue human factory farming practices are far worse than anything other predators do. Even cats that play with their food are better. At least that's relatively quick (a few hours at most). Humans frequently cause their prey to live their entire lives in tortuous conditions. The fact that the act of death itself is relatively painless is rather besides the point.

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by nerdponx on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:43AM (#33657359)
It's probably worth separating slaughter and processing from raising.

In the USA, my understanding is that even small farms, using humane and environmentally friendly practices, still generally need to send the animals to a larger commercial facility for slaughter and processing. According to what I've read, this is largely due to USDA and/or FDA regulations that are cost-prohibitive to implement at a smaller scale.

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by jessaustin on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:09PM (#33657838)
This is a perfect example of how American capitalism abhors competition. I have used smaller, non-approved slaughterhouses and there's nothing wrong with them. If enough small slaughterhouses prospered to make the market for meat competitive, our masters would change the regulations again. Both farmers and consumers are at the mercy of Smithfield, Tyson, JBS, Cargill. While regulators refuse to enforce the law, we will remain so.
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by ethanbond on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:43AM (#33657361)
Not to mention that humans induce the creation of these lifelong sufferers. Animals in the wild do no such thing (or at least nowhere near the scale that humans do and certainly with nothing close to the cognitive abilities of the animals we do it to).
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by chasil on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:58PM (#33660103)
May I suggest that you acquire a dracunculiasis parasite to verify your perpsective?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by anigbrowl on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:53PM (#33661992)
I think there's a scale issue here. For such a parasite, the host body is an environment rather than prey. It's analogous to our species' depressingly poor record of considering negative externalities.
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by chasil on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:13PM (#33662290)
If that's the case, then you should be able to easily manage the scale of this event in your life.

By all means, demonstrate it for us!

"Around a year later, the adult worm migrates to an exit site – usually a lower limb – and induces an intensely painful blister on the skin. The blister eventually bursts to form an intensely painful open wound, from which the worm slowly crawls over several weeks. The wound remains painful throughout the worm's emergence, disabling the infected person for the three to ten weeks it takes the worm to emerge."

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by anigbrowl on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:02PM (#33663007)
Invalid inference. In fact, I pointed out that our species also has a tendency toward environmental destruction.
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by chasil on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:31PM (#33664454)
It would be quite a noble gesture for you to personally host all of these poor, endangered creatures.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNWWrDBRBqk

What a kind and selfless act!

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by anigbrowl on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:55PM (#33664761)
I have no idea what point you are trying to make or why you are being so sarcastic to me and other people you replied to.

A parasite doesn't stalk and hunt the same way a predator does prey. In this case, the larvae infect tiny fleas, which are then consumed by people and other animals drinking unfiltered water. It doesn't have a brain, as such; just a nerve ring and some sensory hairs that cue it to start eating once it is in the right environment.

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by chasil on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:31PM (#33665148)
I merely seek to laud your refined sense of responsibility and duty, and to express wholehearted agreement that humankind is the most vicious of creatures, unrivaled in the infliction of suffering.

Were you to provide yourself as a host to these poor and unfortunate organisms, you would doubtless attest that their impact upon you pales to insignificance compared with the misery imposed by our species.

Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by anigbrowl on Saturday November 19, 2022 @04:41AM (#33668629)
Since I never expressed such a point of view, perhaps you should look for some other well to poison.
Re:Judas Goats: Drug-Addicted Masters of Deceit Once Ruled t... by chasil on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:51PM (#33678045)
Because sweet truth flowed so freely in your waters already.