Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of shoddy research

Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by mark_l_watson on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:17AM (#33655902)

Buy foods in bulk, not boxed or in plastic. Make food from scratch from whole grains, veggies, peppers, spices. Avoid all of the seed oils.

My Dad is 101 and doing OK, and he has always preferred large salads, small amounts of lean meat. I feel better whenever I hit the Fuhrman Diet for six months.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by germinalphrase on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:22AM (#33655989)

What non-seed oils do people use for moderate/high temp cooking? I

use olive for almost everything, but it’s not the best choice for high(er) temp so I go for the sunflower oil.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by dariusm5 on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:32AM (#33656156)

For moderate to high temperature cooking I use either ghee or beef tallow. For deep frying, beef tallow is the best.

Both of them are easy to make at home and last for months in the fridge or at room temperature.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by germinalphrase on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:06AM (#33656735)

Thanks! Looks like ghee has a smoke point of 250 °C (485 °F) degrees which is quite good.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by denton-scratch on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:38AM (#33657258)

For frying, I usually use a mixture of olive oil and butter. The oil slows down the process of the butter burning. It's certainly not as good as ghee, but ghee tends to make stuff greasy.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by phonypc on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:17PM (#33659207)

If you put butter into a pan that is too hot and it starts burning, it can be useful to cool things down by adding some oil. But the milk solids will always burn at a given temperature. A mixture of olive oil and butter won't let you cook at a higher temperature than just butter.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by amanaplanacanal on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:06AM (#33656727)

Maybe coconut oil?

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by dementis on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:33AM (#33657176)

Coconut oil varies a lot in its smoke point; unrefined its similar to butter but refined can get up past 400 F / 204 C(similar to canola oil).

I do like cooking with it despite the low heat limitation because it's good for things you can cook at lower temps like eggs and if you get good high quality oil then it will be near tasteless. Which means you can actually taste the egg instead of whatever oil / lard you fried them with.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by ComputerGuru on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:16AM (#33656881)

I don’t know if peanut oil is considered a seed oil or not, but it has one of the highest smoke points.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by denton-scratch on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:36AM (#33657218)

Peanuts are not seeds. I don't know whether it counts (and I don't know why GP thinks seeds are to be avoided).

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by docandrew on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:38AM (#33657265)

Avocado Oil is supposed to be a good option too with high smoke point. Costco has a reasonably priced option.

I’ve read though that the whole fear of over-heated olive oil is overblown, so who knows. Like everything in nutritional science it is unclear.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by mark_l_watson on Saturday November 19, 2022 @09:27AM (#33670348)

I usually change stir fry recipes to instead simmer the food in vegetable broth. The I add olive oil after cooking.

My wife likes occasional fried food and coconut oil works fine for that.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by drdec on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:01AM (#33656662)

> Avoid all of the seed oils

Could someone elaborate as to what the issue is with seed oils?

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by docandrew on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:37AM (#33657229)

https://youtu.be/Cfk2IXlZdbI

“How Its Made - Canola Oil”

This was all I needed to see to know I don’t want to consume it ever again.

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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by rdedev on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:47PM (#33658605)

I would suggest taking a look at this video.

https://youtu.be/9Qk2LEN6opQ?t=1826

tldr, yes seed oils go through a lot of processing but human outcome data dosent seem to indicate that they cause any negative health effects

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