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Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by notpushkin on Thursday November 17, 2022 @12:15PM (#33642148)
It is hard to shut off the Internet (or at least should be, if it is properly decentralized).

Point in case: Russia. Government has been trying to block everything they don't like for some ten years now I think. Controlling all the uplinks from the country is just not feasible (although they're working on buying everything out I believe), so it was in fact easier for them to make all the ISPs install some blocking equipment themselves, which works pretty poorly.

Many times they were successful, but they couldn't shut Telegram down for example. When TLS ECH is finally adopted it's basically game over for them.

Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by miohtama on Thursday November 17, 2022 @12:37PM (#33642536)
If you shut down Internet, your economy suffers.

Even China cannot block Github, because it would harm their economy too much. Chinese developers need to access Github (PyPi, NPM), or they are not productive. The global software industry is built on the top of Western science that relies of on freedom of information. Thus, they need to let free information to flow against the authorianship will.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub#China

Re:Is This the End of Crypto? by notpushkin on Thursday November 17, 2022 @03:16PM (#33644992)
That's interesting! I thought China developers had npm / PyPI etc. mirrored so that they don't have to deal with the slowed worldwide versions.

UPD: that said, I agree that the Chinese Firewall is about as far as you can shut off the Internet in a modern country (at least without turning into another North Korea).