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Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by ajpgrealish on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:07PM (#33631485)
Small Robot Company have a robot called Dick which uses "Non-Chemical Weeding", i.e. they zap the weed to kill it, and it's root. They use other small robots to do the mapping and planting. I really like the idea of small, specialised robots for different tasks.

https://www.smallrobotcompany.com/weed-killing

Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by modeless on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:30PM (#33631799)
The text "to take place in early 2020" and "AVAILABLE 2021" on the front page of that site, in November 2022, does not inspire confidence.

I guess in the near term dozens of specialized robots for each task will be necessary, but the idea I like is teams of general purpose robots using simple tools to perform almost any task "manually". It's too early to implement that now, but I think it will be feasible within my lifetime.

Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by busyant on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:29PM (#33631797)
> I really like the idea of small, specialised robots for different tasks

in my experience, this is the best approach. I worked at a few biotechs that did a lot of lab automation.

the robots that could do everything were hardly ever used because they did everything poorly and seemed to be constantly in need of repair.

the robots that could do one simple job were always in use.

Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by danielheath on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:16PM (#33631632)
Weed zapping is fascinating - but putting the kind of power electronics required to deliver sufficient voltage in a mobile robot is terrifying from an OHSA perspective.

One group I'm familiar with are using 50kv (and "more than enough" amps) for the purpose.

Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by colechristensen on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:38PM (#33631895)
It's not really. Plenty of people have handheld tasers powered by 9v batteries and plenty of farm equipment can (and does) mangle people not being careful around very dangerous machines.

This is just a misunderstanding of the risks involved in various things.

Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by modeless on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:53PM (#33632091)
Yeah there are tons of really dangerous things on farms, like Paraquat, or power take-offs. Power doesn't have to be electrical to kill you. Mechanical power will do the job just fine.
Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by danielheath on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @10:44PM (#33634684)
I'm well aware that it's far from the only thing that'll kill me on a farm.

That said, comparing a 50Kv shock to a handheld taser (which typically run at 300-500v) makes me think I might not be the one who misunderstands the risks.

Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by wfme on Thursday November 17, 2022 @12:14AM (#33635251)
That 300-500v number is off by about 100x. A handheld taser typically runs at around 20,000 to 150,000 volts. This site lists a few alongside their voltage https://www.thehomesecuritysuperstore.com/blogs/the-home-sec...
Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by colechristensen on Thursday November 17, 2022 @12:41AM (#33635415)
>(which typically run at 300-500v)

You're off by three orders of magnitude. You need about 32 million volts per meter to overcome the resistance of the air. For a gap of a centimeter, it's about a few hundred kilovolts.

And I grew up farming, I'm quite familiar with the dangers.

For example harvesting equipment... the big ones are sort of up to a 30 food wide chainsaw with conveyors and other grabby bits to suck you in. People need to be many meters away from those things while they're running for any sense of safety. A hot spark has nothing on many other dangers and if designed with any sense would only result in severe local burns. Plenty of farm equipment will effortlessly rip a limb off if it doesn't tear your entire body into bite sized chunks.

You know the machines that do that and you don't go near them. When you're the operator you must know where everyone is at all times and know what they mean to do... and be able to communicate with them with a series of gestures, eye contact, short yells, etc. If you don't it's trivially easy to kill your helpers.

Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by marcosdumay on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:26PM (#33631761)
If there is nobody around when it's powered on, I don't see a problem.

If people have to stay around to care for it, then yes, it's scary.

Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by fnordpiglet on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @06:06PM (#33632271)
I see no problem equipping a killer robot with lethal electricity and an AI guidance. It’s basically the same as Tesla autopilot beta, no?
Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by taberiand on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @06:51PM (#33632773)
Maybe this is a false equivalence, but I think industrial scale leaching of poisons into the water supply is more terrifying and anything that can replace that is worth looking into.
Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by Ekaros on Thursday November 17, 2022 @03:55AM (#33636468)
Farming machines are already rather deadly. They are big, have cutting implements... So it probably wouldn't change that much.
Re:Sniper robot treats 500k plants per hour with 95% less ch... by ilyt on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:35AM (#33638613)
Go and see how combine looks and tell me you think otherwise farm machinery is very safe when used wrong.