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Re:The Command Line Crash Course (Zed Shaw) by dredmorbius on Friday December 16, 2011 @07:53PM (#3362990)
It's easy enough to get a POSIX/Linux toolkit via Cygwin.

Though this does assume the user is allowed/enabled to install software.

Barring that, bootable CD / USB distros are also highly tenable. The default Ubuntu installation disk includes this, though there are many other options.

Re:The Command Line Crash Course (Zed Shaw) by LeafStorm on Friday December 16, 2011 @08:11PM (#3363023)
...Except Zed's whole point with this is that you don't have to use the fancy Cygwin/POSIXy stuff or a Linux Live CD or whatever to do programming and the command line. POSIX environments are better for programming, but you don't need them, and a lot of the people who would benefit most from learning programming don't have Linux experience and wouldn't do it if they had to do something fancy to get a UNIX-y environment.
Re:The Command Line Crash Course (Zed Shaw) by dredmorbius on Saturday December 17, 2011 @02:02PM (#3364839)
For me it's more a matter of cognitive simplicity.

I can use a POSIX environment anywhere. It's one less hurdle if that's the tool I'm using.

I've learned (and forgotten) numerous proprietary system languages. I prefer sticking with stuff that will be around. POSIX/Unix/Linux have demonstrated staying power.