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Re:Mom Handcuffed, Jailed for 8-Year-Old Son Walking Half a ... by mlindner on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @12:46PM (#33627262)
Correct! There's a lot of crazy people out in the world who'll call the cops for all manner of things. The correct response would have been to ignore the call following a couple questions by the 911 operator. "Is the child in danger in any way?" the response would be "No." and then hang up on them.
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Re:Mom Handcuffed, Jailed for 8-Year-Old Son Walking Half a ... by 1123581321 on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @12:57PM (#33627497)
The problem is the person calling will lie or exaggerate instead of saying no. If questioned later, they can fall back on claiming they were just trying to help and avoid getting in trouble.

Angry or nosy neighbors, police and social services can get each other caught up in a cycle of escalation that lasts years for some unfortunate families.

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Re:Mom Handcuffed, Jailed for 8-Year-Old Son Walking Half a ... by CogitoCogito on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @01:45PM (#33628339)
In that case the police should investigate and then rightfully conclude there is no danger and leave the child alone to continue walking in the street. After that they should arrest the caller for exaggerating (i.e. lying) regardless of their claimed intentions.

This assume some sort of rationality in our legal bureaucracy of course. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem to exist.

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Re:Mom Handcuffed, Jailed for 8-Year-Old Son Walking Half a ... by kube-system on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:25PM (#33629043)
> The problem is the person calling will lie or exaggerate instead of saying no.

The person calling is likely not "lying" about anything. If they believe it is dangerous for a kid to walk in the street, then the answer is a truthful "yes".

These people simply have different worldviews.

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Re:Mom Handcuffed, Jailed for 8-Year-Old Son Walking Half a ... by pessimizer on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:41PM (#33629347)
"Yes" is not an answer that should be responded to. Details are what should be responded to. Cops shouldn't be asking the neighbor's approval to investigate. They should treat a report as a witness, and refer to a checklist of types of observations that need to be investigated.

If a neighbor makes up details in a report to police, they should be charged with a crime. If the cops are asking "do you think we should investigate" to private citizens, they have abandoned all responsibility as law enforcement.

Imagine crowdsourcing your authority, making the justice system a militia for lazy mobs. Completely upside-down.

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Re:Mom Handcuffed, Jailed for 8-Year-Old Son Walking Half a ... by kube-system on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:49PM (#33629466)
I agree. The problem is that police in much of the US are poorly trained, poorly funded, poorly managed, and increasingly marginalized. The US system of strong local governance means that only the nice neighborhoods get nice public services.
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Re:Mom Handcuffed, Jailed for 8-Year-Old Son Walking Half a ... by hutzlibu on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @12:52PM (#33627405)
""Is the child in danger in any way?" the response would be "No." and then hang up on them."

After informing them, that unlike childs walking outside, abuse of 911 is a real crime.

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