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Re:Introducing Notion AI by ehnto on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @10:21AM (#33624518)
I think their point is that if both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles, then detecting which one is spam becomes that much more difficult.

This is where I see natural language AI causing a real kerfuffle. We're probably already reading bot spam articles without realizing.

Re:Introducing Notion AI by dangerlibrary on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @10:26AM (#33624614)
If you are reading about the results of sporting events, you've been reading bot spam articles for several years, at least.
Re:Introducing Notion AI by joe5150 on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @01:39PM (#33628235)
The local newspaper where I lived until this summer used software called “Lede AI Sports Desk” to automatically generate high school sports articles with headlines like "High School A edges High School B in snug affair 54-52" and "School C drums School D in sound fashion 48-4".

This is clearly not actually using any process that could be called "AI" with a straight face since it's obviously just playing madlibs with different sets of vocabulary based on the scores and margins, but the results were invariably stupid and repetitive headlines and articles.

Re:Introducing Notion AI by dangerlibrary on Thursday November 17, 2022 @04:16AM (#33636612)
To be fair, the special case of the Turing test where participants only discuss recent sporting events seems substantially simpler than the general one. I'm not totally convinced you need GPT-3 level capabilities.
Re:Introducing Notion AI by joe5150 on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:38PM (#33658389)
that is fair; my only real complaint is that if the software were just maybe 5% more clever, the headlines it generates probably wouldn't look as bad as they do.
Re:Introducing Notion AI by andsoitis on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @10:29AM (#33624688)
> both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles

Are you suggesting that humans do not create spam too?

Re:Introducing Notion AI by ehnto on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @10:39AM (#33624866)
Of course they do, they just don't have the same throughput as a bot network.
Re:Introducing Notion AI by WillPostForFood on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @10:39AM (#33624865)
AI is a massive force multiplier.
Re:Introducing Notion AI by andsoitis on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @10:30AM (#33624698)
> both real humans and spambots are using AI to generate their articles

But humans create spam too!

Re:Introducing Notion AI by seydor on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @01:21PM (#33627923)
Using facebook's latest https://galactica.org/ i can get wiki pages that are pretty informative summaries of topics that don't yet exist on the net (though not very good yet).

A lot of the blog posts i read here are manually generated blogspam. These timelines these will converge, so i don't see a huge difference .