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Re:Overhyping hydrogen as a fuel risks endangering net-zero ... by goodcanadian on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @09:18AM (#33623307)
Electric cars aren’t ready. And absolutely everyone knows that, so why are we bringing it up?

I have been driving an electric car for 4 years, and it serves my needs beautifully. So, no, I strongly disagree. Electric cars are ready for most use cases and many people agree.

Re:Overhyping hydrogen as a fuel risks endangering net-zero ... by melling on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @11:08AM (#33625455)
how much did you pay for that electric car? They aren’t comparable in price.

It’s weird how we have to have these silly discussions where people must know that they’re obviously wrong before commenting.

Replacing 1.3 billion cars is going to take decades.

Re:Overhyping hydrogen as a fuel risks endangering net-zero ... by bluGill on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @03:04PM (#33629710)
The average car lasts about 12 years. Sure some collectors cars will be kept running for decades, but it will take about less than 2 decades to replace essentially all cars if we only made EVs. Only selling EVs is the law set to take effect in a few years.

I'm sure that the law will be rolled back a little when one of the 5-10% usecases where EVs don't work screams loud enough (probably shipping and remote areas), but it will become hard to find fuel for your gas car in a couple decades.

Re:Overhyping hydrogen as a fuel risks endangering net-zero ... by melling on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @03:37PM (#33630159)
Yes, in the year 2035 the internal combustion engine no longer be sold. Unless we have to push back a few years.

That gets us to around 2050.

27 years from now.

Re:Overhyping hydrogen as a fuel risks endangering net-zero ... by Karrot_Kream on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @07:50PM (#33633407)
To get to 100% EV usage, yes. In the US, we're already at 5.5% sales of all cars are BEVs, up from a year ago at 3.1%, up from 1% two years ago. In just 5 years a sizable portion of American cars will be BEV, which will create demand for charging and grid usage, which will accelerate the shift. In markets with lots of Tesla adoption, there's already a robust used Tesla market.
Re:Overhyping hydrogen as a fuel risks endangering net-zero ... by goodcanadian on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @06:21PM (#33632453)
I bought it used; the car is ~10 years old, now (still works great and has a much higher resale value than your typical 10 year old car). I have never bought a new car in my life, so I am not really in a position to comment on relative prices of new cars, but they seem quite similar to me, keeping in mind that the electric car manufacturers seem to have been targeting a slightly up-market demographic in general. You also need to consider that electric cars are much cheaper to run than an equivalent petrol car.

It’s weird how we have to have these silly discussions where people must know that they’re obviously wrong before commenting.

I agree . . . oh wait, you think I'm the one who is wrong. How bizarre.