Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by anshumankmr on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @11:04PM
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>the pilot depressurizes the cabin, turns off transponders, turns around to avoid civilian radar
wtf... Why is there a way for one person to depressurise the cabin?
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by jazzyjackson on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @11:06PM
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Because if you can't trust the pilot you're fucked anyway?
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by jahewson on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @11:27PM
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Can be used to clear the cabin of smoke in the event of a fire.
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by userbinator on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @12:56AM
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Or in case of overpressure, which can be just as bad.
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by Grimburger on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @01:15AM
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You sure about that?
Humans regularly work at 30x atmospheric pressure and can probably go to 100x
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/32640/what-is-the-...
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by afterburner on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @01:19AM
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These seem to talk mostly about diving, where you breathe from a regulated air supply. I assume that air supply is not at 30-100x atmospheric pressure?
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by bboygravity on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @01:47AM
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If the air supply wouldn't be at a slightly higher pressure than that, the air would get sucked out of your lungs as far as I understand.
This is why dive tanks run out way way faster the deeper you go (around 1 hour at 18 meters deep and around 10 minutes at 30+ meters out the top of my head).
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by heavenlyblue on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:17AM
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Air supply is at that pressure, but they don't breathe the same mix as atmospheric air. Atmospheric air becomes narcotic at 4 atmospheres.
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by Grimburger on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @07:34PM
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The air is at that pressure, as is the surrounding water pressure on the human body.
We are remarkably good at handling higher pressures.
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by mattashii on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:33AM
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I don't think airplane hulls are designed for more than 1 Atm of pressure differential between cabin and the outside; according to the wikipedia article [0] on cabin pressurization normal values are between 540 and 690 hPa pressure differential are normal.
If the cabin has an overpressure event, the hull might pop like a balloon, leading to a decompression event.
Re:Divers Accidentally Find a Piece of the Challenger Space ...
by userbinator on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @09:35AM
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Exactly. The humans aren't the problem, it's the plane itself.
It explains why the two main mysteries – why the initial search was a failure, and the lack of radio and transponder data.
It's also easy to see why authorities and airline operators want to silence it, especially if they have plausible deniability to do so. There is simply less prestige lost in a failed international search-and-rescue than a national airline pilot killing innocent people for god knows what reason.