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Re:Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible... by ls15 on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @01:17AM (#33605899)
> Early on, the goal was to reach herd immunity while we still had vaccines that were fairly effective at reducing transmission against the variants we had had, before they mutated.

The mRNA vaccines weren't even tested for transmission during the early trials. It was impossible to make educated statements about reaching herd immunity through mass vaccination without any data. This did not stop people from introducing mandates in some places, even after it became clear that herd immunity will not be reached, which goes a little beyond bad communication.

Re:Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible... by xracy on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @12:47PM (#33612510)
I think that was a reasonable assumption given our understanding of infectious diseases.

In hindsight, that was incorrect, but you can't criticize a decision made with limited information with perfect information, and pretend like you would've seen the perfect information at the time. It is reasonable to assume that viruses would be subject to herd immunity, because it's been true for the vast majority of viruses we've interacted with in the past.

Re:Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible... by ls15 on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:09AM (#33619892)
> you can't criticize a decision made with limited information with perfect information, and pretend like you would've seen the perfect information at the time.

I can absolutely criticize handwavy low knowledge / high impact decisions afterwards, because that's what they were and that was clear to many at that time already. Consensus wasn't reached based on knowledge, but based on power.

Luckily I came to that conclusion early during the pandemic, so I don't feel compelled to defend unethical decisions now.

Re:Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible... by xracy on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @04:31AM (#33620699)
ah, I should've known I was having this discussion with someone who is clairvoyant
Re:Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible... by ls15 on Thursday November 17, 2022 @02:48PM (#33644567)
It does not take a very high quality crystal ball to see that others are deploying their crystal balls