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Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by eagsalazar2 on Sunday November 13, 2022 @12:12PM (#33584998)
DFM may be a nice lens to look at positioning this through IMO. It's thoughtfully designed around the larger workflow which more archaic (jab jab) tools don't understand or ignore. Honestly I love Trello but wouldn't give it the time of day in your positioning. Just emphasizing the depth of expertise and broad perspective on daily/weekly individual/team workflow that made your tool possible will, without saying it, be positioning you agains the anti-pm tool genre of pm tools (like Trello). Combine that with some talk about "delightful UX" (snark snark, you suck Jira!) and "modern, robust infrastructure with insane performance" (lol Asana you also suck!). Just thinking out loud but seriously positioning against Asana, Jira, Shortcut, etc should be as easy as saying, in other words, "brainless, terrible user experience, and buggy" (all of which are true and everybody knows it).
Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by tonypham on Sunday November 13, 2022 @12:39PM (#33585262)
Thanks so much for your contribution. You made some really great points here. I'll take your ideas into consideration. Thanks again for your help.
Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by bornfreddy on Sunday November 13, 2022 @01:24PM (#33585783)
With UX and performance jabs you take care of clickup too. God it sucks.
Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by solardev on Sunday November 13, 2022 @02:19PM (#33586387)
I haven't used ClickUp much myself, but I've heard good things about it. Why does it suck for you?
Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by jetofff on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:55PM (#33599018)
Using click up for work right now. It's super powerful and is useful to someone like me who will utilize all the features, but very confusing and overwhelming to someone who needs to learn the tool.
Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by bornfreddy on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @10:47AM (#33610624)
URLs sometimes work and sometimes don't. The UI is complex compared to the (old, on premise) Jira which is saying something - looking for tickets that you know are there is infuriating. The best way to copy the ticket text (once you do find it) is to copy it from the changelog and clean it up, or just take a screenshot... and so on. One of the worst UIs I have ever seen. Pretty? As a picture. Useful? Hell no.

Sorry for the rant, but I have pretty strong feelings about it. Moved to (online) Jira and while not perfect, it's much better than ClickUp.

Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by monsieurbanana on Sunday November 13, 2022 @01:31PM (#33585865)
Down For Managing stuff?
Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by blakesley on Sunday November 13, 2022 @04:54PM (#33587759)
DFM? Google searches for it aren't turning up anything relevant.
Re:Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asan... by eagsalazar2 on Sunday November 13, 2022 @10:52PM (#33590035)
Design for manufacturing. It is a focus, in building tooling, on how that tooling fits into the larger workflows around the specific domain of the tool, and the role that thoughtful tool design can play in improving (or damaging) the overall success and harmony of the entire system.