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Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen... by erk__ on Saturday November 12, 2022 @09:58AM (#33573648)
As with most thinks in the linux world it depends on who builds your upstream. ZFS is in the kernel distributed by Ubuntu which is one of the largest distributions.

Linux is unlike Eg freebsd not a monolithic operating system, but only a kernel so it is in my opinion not really right to say that it has no support.

Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen... by PlutoIsAPlanet on Saturday November 12, 2022 @10:24AM (#33573908)
> but only a kernel so it is in my opinion not really right to say that it has no support.

The kernel has no native support for ZFS.

Ubuntu may ship with ZFS, but that's one distro. Meanwhile, RHEL etc won't even touch it.

On Linux, XFS dominates and likely will continue to dominate the server world, meanwhile btrfs will slowly erase ext4 in the desktop side of things. Android/Embedded have always used their own different filesystems so it's irrelevant there.

Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen... by throw0101c on Saturday November 12, 2022 @12:23PM (#33575072)
> The kernel has no native support for ZFS.

Neither does it have accelerated Nvidia card support that could be used for things like HPC/AI/ML. Yet I'm administrating an entire cluster of Ubuntu machines with cards just fine.

We generally use the "nvidia-driver-NNN-server" package.

If you want to live ideologically pure no one is going to stop you, but someone of us need to get work done.

Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen... by WastingMyTime89 on Saturday November 12, 2022 @07:08PM (#33578569)
It’s not about ideological purity. I don’t want to touch anything a serious Linux distribution won’t support and I don’t consider Ubuntu - a derivative of the over-patched mess that is Debian - a serious distribution.

ZFS is in a very weird position on Linux. It’s unfortunate but that’s mostly due to Sun and Oracle so I don’t feel bad stating people shouldn’t use it.

Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen... by dfc on Saturday November 12, 2022 @09:01PM (#33579198)
What packages do you think are overly patched in Debian?
Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen... by throw0101c on Sunday November 13, 2022 @08:01AM (#33582643)
> I don’t want to touch anything a serious Linux distribution won’t support and I don’t consider Ubuntu - a derivative of the over-patched mess that is Debian - a serious distribution.

What defines a "serious distribution"?

Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen... by PlutoIsAPlanet on Sunday November 13, 2022 @03:23AM (#33581141)
It's not about ideologies, using modules outside the kernel is never a good experience for those who use up-to-date distros (e.g. Arch, Fedora etc).