Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by sigmar on Friday November 11, 2022 @02:31PM
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What legal guarantee is there that Tesla won't reverse course in the future? Say a charging station or car manufacturer adopts this connector and then in 5 years Tesla says "well actually, we've got these patents and we're going to start charging you to sell cars/charging stations"? Publishing the specs and saying "we won't enforce patents" isn't a legally binding guarantee
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Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by Symmetry on Friday November 11, 2022 @02:37PM
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I'm not a lawyer but that sure sounds like it would be a case of promissory estoppel to me. That is, if someone relies on Tesla's word and makes investments based on it they'd have a legal case to prevent Tesla from trying to exercise those patents against them. But I do hope there's an actual legal grant of rights as well.
Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by sigmar on Friday November 11, 2022 @03:07PM
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Haven't heard the term and I'm googling it to understand better. Is there case law where this was tested in the context of patents on ports? I'm thinking Tesla could say, "we changed our minds but you can keep selling any of the Toyota 2023 models, you just can't make a new car model with the port. therefore we aren't causing you financial harm or injury by relying on our promise"
Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by Dylan16807 on Friday November 11, 2022 @03:58PM
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You're asking for a very specific citation there.
But it doesn't matter, they could give everyone who asks a 20 year license for $1.
Also courts aren't stupid.
Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by otterley on Friday November 11, 2022 @02:36PM
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Google “promissory estoppel”
Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by karaterobot on Friday November 11, 2022 @02:40PM
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I Googled it, and learned a new concept. Thanks!
Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by advisedwang on Friday November 11, 2022 @02:57PM
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The press release says:
> we are opening our EV connector design to the world. We invite charging network operators and vehicle manufacturers to put the Tesla charging connector ... equipment and vehicles
This does not even promise that it is free. "open" and "invite you to X" sound good but are very vague.
Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by mike_d on Friday November 11, 2022 @03:12PM
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Yeah, Apple has used similar language in marketing for their Lightning Connector licensing program.
Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard
by reindeerer on Friday November 11, 2022 @04:04PM
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> What legal guarantee is there that Tesla won't reverse course in the future?
None. There would have to be a governing body set up for this to have any legs