Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Friday November 11, 2022 @10:50AM
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It actually gives Enron a run for its money: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Hamid-Ekbia-2/publicati...
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Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by capableweb on Friday November 11, 2022 @11:10AM
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You should see the structure of companies like IKEA or others who really have a complicated corporate structure.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by pjc50 on Friday November 11, 2022 @11:33AM
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Do you have a chart for our entertainment?
(Does the IKEA org chart have the little figures from the assembly instructions, and an Allen key?)
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by otuutti on Monday November 14, 2022 @03:55AM
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Might not be as complex with back and forth ownership, but for a "simplified" chart, AXA's 53 page presentation is up there:
https://www-axa-com.cdn.axa-contento-118412.eu/www-axa-com/e...
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by wodenokoto on Friday November 11, 2022 @11:32AM
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IKEA is notorious for having one of the most opaque company structures in the world.
Word on the street is that ikea is technically a charity.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by baby-yoda on Friday November 11, 2022 @11:57AM
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This is a huge oversimplification but my recollection is, there is a design arm of the IKEA structure which is a non-profit. They create and own all of the designs and IP related to products, which a different IKEA subsidiary then licenses and pays royalties on, essentially negating much/all of the margin of the finished good.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by bananapub on Friday November 11, 2022 @01:12PM
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it's not a charity, it's a ultimately held by a pair of Liechtenstein and Dutch foundations, with an elaborate sea of holding companies underneath: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKEA#Corporate_structure
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by kmac_ on Friday November 11, 2022 @11:44AM
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It's quite common to spin off daughter companies per project, it isn't unusual or illegal in any way. Without at least type and ownership information it's hard to tell if it's iffy.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by nocoiner on Friday November 11, 2022 @12:54PM
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That’s actually just a tiny, tiny subset of the overall Enron corporate structure. The chart you linked just shows the capitalization and ownership of one of the off-balance sheet structures that Enron used to conceal debt. This structure was capitalized with Enron stock, which worked great as long as the price kept going up, but once the value of that stock fell beneath a certain value, the single-purpose entity used here became insolvent and accounting rules (finally) required that that debt be consolidated back onto Enron parent’s balance sheet.
It’s a situation with many interesting parallels in the crypto industry. Not only does history rhyme, but sometimes it really does repeat.