Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by CraigRood on Friday November 11, 2022 @10:41AM
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I'm really skeptical of Binance, whilst I would never accuse them of anything specific, I have no proof. Their structure, governance and business model combined with their refusal to meet basic regulatory requirements makes me feel uneasy.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by tppiotrowski on Friday November 11, 2022 @10:53AM
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All day I've been seeing reserve audit posts from all the crypto companies. To me this also screams "Please don't make a run on us or we're screwed"
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by Scoundreller on Friday November 11, 2022 @10:56AM
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Proof of assets is only one half of the solvency equation though.
What are the liabilities and who are they to?
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by mikeyouse on Friday November 11, 2022 @11:03AM
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Even the assets are questionable — as Tether’s attestation language change shows. They value their assets at what they’re worth “in normal market conditions” which is a flashing red light for bank run vulnerability.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on Friday November 11, 2022 @12:17PM
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Exchange is pretty simple business. Customers deposit coins and fiat, trade between them and pay you commissions. If you don't send any of those coins out, there is no risk, no liquidity crunches, no liabilities whatsoever. This guy took customer coins to gamble, and lost. Story as old as Romeo and Julia.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by vkou on Friday November 11, 2022 @01:42PM
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> If you don't send any of those coins out, there is no risk, no liquidity crunches, no liabilities whatsoever.
If you don't send any of those coins out, there are no profits for the exchange operator, either. Look at how Coinbase does everything more-or-less by the book, and barely makes money. Trading fees just don't cut it.
Yet, some fly-by-night exchange incorporated in the Bahamas is offering wild signup bonuses and lower fees and yield that would make Scrooge McDuck blush.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on Friday November 11, 2022 @05:56PM
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Yeah, those trading fees won't support billion dollar IPOs .. investors need to see clear world domination path.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by bananapub on Friday November 11, 2022 @01:16PM
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where are you seeing any actual audits?
it looks like the usual nonsense of "here's some bank account balances", with no explanation of what liabilities they hold, or how much related party loan crime they have on their books.
Re:FTX group companies commence voluntary chapter 11 proceed...
by pavlov on Friday November 11, 2022 @10:56AM
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Binance is effectively saying “I’m not going to tell you where I am but you should let me manage your money.” It takes a special kind of gullibility to accept that, but in the crypto world left has been right and black white for a very long time.
Binance’s US subsidiary is just as safe as FTX.US was, despite their claims otherwise. It will fall along with the other dominos.
Binance does the same but even more extreme — they don’t even tell where their HQ is actually located.
Money launderers and tax evaders have long used these tricks. Those people don’t normally get VC capital at $34 billion valuations though. The crypto implosion ought to be a massive lesson to the industry.