News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:4% will quit if revealed co-workers earn more money by ajsnigrutin on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:05AM (#33560343)
There was a (after war) baby boom here too. We didn't call them by that name, but there was a huge population rise in the late 40s and 50s.

In yugoslavia, you didn't own an apartment, but you rented it (from the government)... so almost noone had more than one apartment, noone had a too-large apartment, and if you got a job in trbovlje the government would get you an apartment in trbovlje (a city in the middle of nowehere). If you died, the apartment went back to the "pool", and someone else could get it. If you got a kid, you got a bigger apartment, and someone else got the smaller one.

But still, nobody owned those apartments, they just rented them.

The high ownership (the colored map from a post above) came only after they sold all those apartments to renters, and people started hoarding them, because they got them for very cheap and the prices could only go up. For "normal people" it would be better to have lower ownership and more renting from the government (if it was handled properly by the government.. a big if).. but then the colored would show different ownage percentages.

The biggest problem now is, that you're not allowed to build anymore, due to regulations and a lack of buildable land (in a legal sense... there is a lot of land, but the government doesn't allow building there, also in A LOT of areas, you can build a two apartment two story building max, instead of large apartment buildings that we need). "Back then", the government decided they needed more apartments, they took a piece of land and started building.. didn't matter if it was a pasture [0], a field, what the neighbors though (again, government buildings next door), they just built.

Now we have areas where we could build [1], but the government doesn't allow it... sometimes, if you're friendly with the mayor, you buy a farmland somewhere, and it suddenly becomes buildable, but this isn't true for "normal people". It seems a lot of people have invested interests to keep realestate prices high, and those people are in positions of power and can decide where we can or cannot build.

[0] https://i.imgur.com/zjfRsuw.png

[1] https://goo.gl/maps/ZVvHQmwzuX4VhLZ99 https://goo.gl/maps/dCoroKjHYs45dU8T8

Re:4% will quit if revealed co-workers earn more money by medo-bear on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:20AM (#33560501)
> In yugoslavia, you didn't own an apartment, but you rented it (from the government)...

you paid it off to the corporation you worked for. it wasnt a lottery system. it was more like a generous homeloan

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02757206.2017.1...

>so almost noone had more than one apartment, noone had a too-large apartment

actually the apartments were reletively very good quality, and often buildings were made as part of a grander urban project

anyway im not saying the system was perfect. this shouldnt need to be said. but it did solve certain problems rather quickly

Re:4% will quit if revealed co-workers earn more money by ajsnigrutin on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:38AM (#33560661)
You didn't pay it off, the government (who also owned the corporation) was the owner of it. You could build your own house and own it though, but not the "social" apartments.

The option to buy the apartments from the government came only after the fall of socialism in 1991 (jazbinskov zakon/law)

> actually the apartments were reletively very good quality, and often buildings were made as part of a grander urban project

yes, the apartments were well built, but the aging reinforced concrete will be problematic very soon.

Re:4% will quit if revealed co-workers earn more money by medo-bear on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:52AM (#33560794)
> You could build your own house and own it though, but not the "social" apartments

you could not "own" it but you had all the rights one might want for their dwelling