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Re:FTC Restores Rigorous Enforcement of Law Banning Unfair M... by gruez on Thursday November 10, 2022 @03:28PM (#33552804)
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Re:FTC Restores Rigorous Enforcement of Law Banning Unfair M... by ok_dad on Thursday November 10, 2022 @03:34PM (#33552889)
> Amway

Literally the last word of the sentence before the sentence you quoted stated the very specific company name.

Re:FTC Restores Rigorous Enforcement of Law Banning Unfair M... by themagician on Thursday November 10, 2022 @03:32PM (#33552869)
Amway. Amway and all the clones.

In the US you can run a pyramid scheme as long as you have enough money and political influence to do it “legally”.

Re:FTC Restores Rigorous Enforcement of Law Banning Unfair M... by parineum on Thursday November 10, 2022 @03:53PM (#33553176)
That's not true. A pyramid scheme, legally, has no product but itself. Those are illegal.

For example, pay me $20 to join my company and you get the right to recruit people for $20!

Amway is essentially exactly the same except they add a product to the mix to get around the law. They still primarily profit from the "employees" rather than customers.

Changing the definition of a pyramid scheme, for the proposes of law enforcement, to something more akin to "profits primarily off employees" is what needs to be done.

Re:FTC Restores Rigorous Enforcement of Law Banning Unfair M... by pessimizer on Thursday November 10, 2022 @06:42PM (#33555294)
> A pyramid scheme, legally, has no product but itself.

There are 0.0% of pyramid schemes with no product.

Re:FTC Restores Rigorous Enforcement of Law Banning Unfair M... by parineum on Thursday November 10, 2022 @07:18PM (#33555687)
Because they are illegal. That's what the originals were though.

You pay some amount of money that gets you basically nothing (maybe a few pages of "how to recruit") and that's it.

MLM schemes are distinct in that they actually have a product and that's what makes them legal.

Re:FTC Restores Rigorous Enforcement of Law Banning Unfair M... by specialist on Friday November 11, 2022 @02:43PM (#33565749)
If you have model legislation handy, particularly the specific legal definition of scams like MLM, I'd be very grateful. Otherwise I'll poke around a bit, to see how UK phrased it.