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Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by DoubleDerper on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @03:50PM (#33537641)
i've lost interest in the qubit race.

what can this machine do productively?

Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by spywaregorilla on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @04:25PM (#33538079)
Find the prime factorization of some two digit numbers.
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by 6nf on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:51PM (#33541119)
Previous record was 21 = 3 * 7 if I recall correctly
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by SighMagi on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:32PM (#33542225)
Using an algorithm specifically for 21, I believe
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by hulitu on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @04:44PM (#33538340)
It can sit there without using any power.
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by yrgulation on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:10PM (#33540804)
It can drive IBM brand awareness. Pretty sure some people are amazed by what ibm just “achieved”.
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by thinkmcfly on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:25PM (#33540921)
I'm still pretty curious. Can this thing do traveling salesman yet?
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by seasox on Friday November 11, 2022 @03:30AM (#33558429)
There is no known polynomial time algorithm for TSP. AFAIK there are quantum algorithms for TSP with quadratic speedup in comparison to the brute force method (still exponential though).

The one thing quantum computers are (currently and theoretically) able to solve efficiently is the factorization problem, but are very much limited by low qubit number, i.e. engineering problems.

Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by thinkmcfly on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @04:29PM (#33630924)
Thank you for your informative response!
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by seasox on Friday November 11, 2022 @03:30AM (#33558437)
There was a time when people used to say these things about conventional computers, remember the 50s?
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by bvrmn on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @03:59PM (#33537740)
Does it calculate generic Shore?
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by credit_guy on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:13PM (#33541726)
Do you mean Shor's algorithm [1]? Most likely no, or IBM would have made sure you'll hear about that.

But let's say it can, and somehow IBM forgot to mention.

Shor's algorithm reduces to a quantum Fourier circuit, with 2N qubit inputs and 2N qubit outputs, where N is the number of digits of the number to be factored. That's 4N qubits only for inputs and outputs.

So, in the best case scenario, this computer would be able to factor a 108-binary digit number.

My computer (2020 Intel-based iMac) can do that in one minute.

Here's the code if you want to try it on your computer:

  import sympy
  n_digits = 54
  p = sympy.randprime(2**(n_digits-1), 2**n_digits)
  q = sympy.randprime(2**(n_digits-1), 2**n_digits)
  sympy.factorint(N)
Output: {53882560694857690729: 1, 44658549937294814041: 1}

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm

Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by nemoniac on Thursday November 10, 2022 @08:56AM (#33546431)
Before the last line you need

    N = p * q
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by hdjjhhvvhga on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @05:02PM (#33538597)
There's something unsettling about them calling these "quantum computers." There's too much noise for them to be actually usable. It's as if someone constructed one half of an abacus and started calling it "abacus." It just doesn't feel right.

And when we actually build a quantum computer (which, I hope, happens by the end of this century), everybody will be too bored about it.

Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by aliswe on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @06:02PM (#33539434)
How do we reconcile between these kinds of news and that Quantum Physicist who says that Quantum computers never will amount to anything? I'm confused ...
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by e63f67dd-065b on Thursday November 10, 2022 @12:04AM (#33542454)
The claim that quantum computers will never amount to anything is more nuanced than that. There is multiple parts to that claim:

- Shor's algorithm is about the only productive thing we've figured out where a quantum computer has an advantage

- IBM unveils 433 qbit computer, to factor 4096 RSA we're gonna need 8192 logical qbits

- Those 433 qbits are physical qbits, and there's (to the best of my knowledge) no literature on their measurement fidelity, coherence timelines, etc. These are purely experimental machines, it's not like you can plug your laptop into their giant cryogenic machines and run quantum algorithms without a giant team of literal quantum physicists standing by the thing and monitoring it

- How those 433 qbits actually translate into any amount of meaningful computation is up in the air

- The best we figured out was 5 logical qbits running a specialised Shor's algorithm on the 127qbit computer they unveiled a few years back to factor 21=3*7

- Nobody has, to the best of my knowledge, actually run the full Shor's algorithm on anything of note, even on these systems

Not a quantum physicist; I only have vague memories from a quantum computing seminar I took long ago. Feel free to correct if any of the above is incorrect.

Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by desro on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @07:18PM (#33540291)
Why such cynicism in the comments? This is a pretty cool achievement, even if it's incremental or lacks present application (I'm not qualified to say either way).

I'm cheering them on!

Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by 6nf on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:50PM (#33541110)
Can it do anything faster than a traditional supercomputer yet?
Re:IBM unveils 433 qubit quantum computer by derekmcloughlin on Thursday November 10, 2022 @04:50AM (#33544326)
Sabine Hossenfelder has a good summary of the state of Quantum Computing so far:

https://youtu.be/CBLVtCYHVO8