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Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by paledot on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:38AM (#33533100)
> His salary is already only $1/yr, and has been since 2013. So there's nothing to do there.

That's a joke, a tax dodge, a PR gag, a farce. There's nothing fiscally responsible about it. Taking financial responsibility, if such a thing exists, would involve giving up his equity comp or even some of his holdings. Give it to the employees whose careers you've disrupted through your bad business decisions. That's responsibility.

"Market rates" is likewise a joke.

A: "Market rates for corporate executives are obscene."

B: "They're paid market rates, what's the problem?"

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by eru on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:00AM (#33533480)
Corporate executive are also employees.

And their careers have been more disrupted than some random software engineer's career.

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by rbanffy on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:15AM (#33533727)
It seems fair. If executives were making the decisions that landed the company in a difficult situation, it's only fair they bear the consequences of their failure. Besides, it's difficult to empathize when their compensation packages are, while market rate, significantly higher than the engineers who do their bidding. I wouldn't be surprised if the fraction of executives that would be able to retire at this point was much higher than the one for engineers, which is likely much higher than the one for non-engineering individual contributors.

Also remember that since it's executives who set executive compensation, there is some incentive to inflate it.

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by eru on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:53PM (#33541136)
The CEO is obsessed with the metaverse. Not sure the other executive had much say.

(They can, of course, walk away if they disagree. But so can every other employee.)

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by lovich on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:04PM (#33534522)
Executives are not employees, they have agency to decide the companies direction. More agency brings more responsibility
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by klyrs on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:09PM (#33534609)
> And their careers have been more disrupted than some random software engineer's career.

Were they really? Did they just lose their jobs and are they now underwater on mortgages that their families can no longer afford without that income? How many executives lives were "disrupted" worse than that? Because I'm talking about a significant fraction of 11k people that you're dismissing as "some random software engineer."

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by not2b on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:48PM (#33535222)
Not to mention "here on a H1-B visa with a short time to find a new tech job or be deported".
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by jfdbcv on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:06AM (#33533579)
Does Zuckerberg take equity compensation? I thought he just owned ~14% of FB.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by airstrike on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:15AM (#33533712)
You're right, he has given up equity comp. I was curious so went looking...

Based on the latest proxy, he does not take any equity compensation. He only gets his $1 salary, a corporate private jet for business travel and $10M / year "to cover additional costs related to his and his family's personal security. This allowance is paid to Mr. Zuckerberg net of required tax withholdings, and Mr. Zuckerberg must apply the net amount towards additional personnel, equipment, services, residential improvements, or other security-related costs."

https://www.bamsec.com/filing/132680122000043/1?cik=1326801&...

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by lovich on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:00PM (#33534456)
That says requested and doesn’t specify what he actually receives which is weasely enough to make me question the word choice
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by airstrike on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @12:20PM (#33534774)
That's not how proxies work
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by lovich on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @02:31PM (#33536678)
Does the wording here not allow for a different result than what is implied? I’m not familiar with the specific legalities around this document
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by airstrike on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @06:31PM (#33539716)
There is generally very little that is weasely "implied" in SEC filings. The company is representing those facts to shareholders (maybe even more so in a proxy filing, which is what shareholders must read before voting at their annual general meeting). So every single word is very heavily scrutinized to avoid ambiguity, with the text remaining mostly constant over the years except for what really needs to be updated to avoid any inadvertent change in meaning.

The excerpt I quoted was written for a different purpose (namely to explain the $10M / year and whether the compensation committee deems it appropriate), so perhaps you feel that the language is somewhat vague as far as answering your question goes. I actually think it's pretty clear as it ends with

> "has requested to receive only $1 in annual salary and does not receive any bonus payments, equity awards, or other incentive compensation."

But earlier on in the document (https://www.bamsec.com/filing/132680122000043/1?cik=1326801&...), they do make the explicit assertion that you are looking for:

> "2021 Equity Awards. Mr. Zuckerberg did not receive any additional equity awards in 2021 because our compensation, nominating & governance committee believed that his existing equity ownership position sufficiently continued to align his interests with those of our shareholders."

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by MerManMaid on Friday November 11, 2022 @12:14AM (#33557529)
Just so everyone is clear here, $1 salary + travel/security rounds out to $27,000,001 for 2021.

Additionally, travel/security don't seem to have any hard spending limit and alleviates Zuck's personal tax liability. (by $27M anyway)

Per the filing you linked:

" Mr. Zuckerberg uses private aircraft for personal travel in connection with his overall security program (including, beginning in 2022, a private aircraft that is indirectly and wholly owned by Mr. Zuckerberg and operated by an independent charter company). On certain occasions, Mr. Zuckerberg may be accompanied by guests when using private aircraft. "

"the costs of Mr. Zuckerberg's security program vary from year to year depending on requisite security measures, his travel schedule, and other factors."

(Emphasis mine)