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Re:FTX Agreement with Binance by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @11:36AM (#33520926)
FTX bet customer funds through the CEO’s hedge fund on an FTX token [1]. The token price fell when this was revealed [2].

The hedge fund, and thus FTX, had less money than they owed lenders and customers. FTX found a bail-out in Binance; otherwise everyone would have lost their money.

[1] https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/11/02/divisions-in-sa...

[2] https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2022/11/08/ftt-plummets-as-...

Re:FTX Agreement with Binance by koolba on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @11:41AM (#33521013)
> otherwise everyone would have lost their money.

It's a bit early to speculate on this one.

Re:FTX Agreement with Binance by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @11:43AM (#33521055)
> bit early to speculate on this

We’ve seen the balance sheet. The facts have been on the table for FTX as much as they are for Tether.

I can’t say when they will fail. But as soon as we saw the Alameda books and Alameda and FTX’s responses (the former, an irrelevant statement about other assets; the latter, a claim of solvency without proof), the endpoint was sealed. Insolvent, leveraged entities don’t pay out junior creditors absent a bail-out.

Re:FTX Agreement with Binance by johnmaguire on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @01:43PM (#33522634)
I think the parent was pointing out that this is just an intent to acquire and could fall through.
Re:FTX Agreement with Binance by koolba on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @06:04PM (#33539455)
And looks like it did.
Re:FTX Agreement with Binance by shawabawa3 on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @01:16PM (#33522254)
What it actually revealed that they embezzled customer funds? It's still speculation as far as I can tell (your sources say nothing about customer funds)
Re:FTX Agreement with Binance by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @01:52PM (#33522721)
> still speculation

They've admitted to illiquidity transforming into insolvency. That doesn't happen if you aren't betting client assets.

Re:FTX Agreement with Binance by shawabawa3 on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @06:17AM (#33529880)
It could be a hack or losing keys