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Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by unsupp0rted on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @01:16AM (#33516396)
I can easily imagine an Earth with no philosophers after say Aristotle that is functionally identical to our current one.
Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by TuringTest on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @04:32AM (#33517479)
Minus evidence-based science, free markets, government of the people, freedom of religion and the end of slavery. Yep, exactly the same.
Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by LudwigNagasena on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @04:45AM (#33517557)
Might as well attribute all of that to Christianity. That claim probably holds as much water.
Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by andrepd on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @07:13AM (#33518275)
Attributing science and freedom of religion to Christianity? That's a bold thought.
Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by dublin on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @08:27AM (#33518694)
And a correct one. There is a reason these things did not develop until when and where they did...
Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by woodruffw on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @08:51AM (#33518897)
Pinning concepts like "science" and "freedom" to a specific era is a silly endeavor. But if you had to, neither would originate in Christian Europe: science as a concept predates Christianity by at least 800 years; the thing we call "freedom" today didn't take shape until 1600 years into Christian Europe's development.

Christianity, like just about every religion, has made invaluable contributions to philosophy. But it's ahistorical, to an embarrassing degree, to attribute such broad concepts and bodies of inquiry to it.

Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by ConceptJunkie on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @08:36AM (#33518772)
Wow. I guess you're not familiar with any philosophers other than Aristotle, otherwise you could never make such a statement.
Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by unsupp0rted on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @09:45AM (#33519497)
Please elaborate
Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by whatshisface on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @01:27PM (#33522420)
There should be a rule where you're not allowed to phrase a question as a false statement that insults a lot of people...
Re:Monumental advance in number theory posted to the ArXiv b... by Tainnor on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @10:53AM (#33520337)
Without philosophy, there is no Hegel, without Hegel there is no Marx, without Marx there is no Lenin, without Lenin, there is no Stalin, without Stalin there is no Cold War, without the Cold War there's probably not a war in Ukraine right now, and without a war in Ukraine I wouldn't be worried about my gas bill. I think that's pretty concrete.

(Just a single, rather obvious example. Easy enough to find others.)