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Re:Signal Introduces Stories by anigbrowl on Monday November 07, 2022 @09:18PM (#33515208)
> The cool stuff about Signal is what happens under the hood.

Nobody was asking for stickers, stories, or crypto. Those things aren't cool.

Re:Signal Introduces Stories by hackmiester on Monday November 07, 2022 @09:44PM (#33515351)
I'm sorry, but that's just not true. Stickers are widely used in the group chats I am in. I myself have created multiple sticker packs since the sticker feature launched. Before that, several people mentioned they thought Signal looked like a shitty app because it "didn't even have stickers."

Ultimately there was no shortage of boring, cryptographically-secure apps. Signal is filling demand for an app that is both secure and fun to use.

Re:Signal Introduces Stories by anigbrowl on Monday November 07, 2022 @10:21PM (#33515560)
Taking it up after it became available is not the same thing as asking for it. Sorry but this a frivolous cosmetic thing compared to security issues like Signal's ongoing linkage to phone numbers.
Re:Signal Introduces Stories by hackmiester on Monday November 07, 2022 @11:02PM (#33515748)
That is correct, but "nobody was asking for stickers" isn't, and that sort of thing does dramatically affect adoption. Also, in the cases I am talking about, not using an app because it doesn't have a feature technically does mean they didn't request the feature, but I'm not sure that is a useful distinction if our goal is to get people to use more secure methods of communication.
Re:Signal Introduces Stories by anigbrowl on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @12:10AM (#33516059)
I really can't buy the proposition that demand for stickers outweighed the years-long pain points about things like your Signal identity being tied to your phone number or a ping going out to everyone in a person's address book who already used signal, both of which are at odds with the core mission of secure and private communications.
Re:Signal Introduces Stories by tptacek on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @01:38AM (#33516498)
Signal's "ongoing linkage to phone numbers" is one of their more powerful security features.
Re:Signal Introduces Stories by Fervicus on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @02:00AM (#33516606)
Why is that? Not disagreeing but genuinely curious. One of the issues I face sometimes is wanting to stay in touch with someone I met. I'd like to do that over Signal (I don't use any of the popular social media platforms) but I don't feel comfortable sharing my phone number with them. It would be nice if I could use a unique user handle instead.
Re:Signal Introduces Stories by tptacek on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @09:14AM (#33519133)
It allows Signal to work similarly to the messaging services it replaces without having to keep serverside contact lists. Those contact lists, which practically every other "secure messenger" keeps, are the most valuable metadata the service keeps, in many cases more than the content itself: they're a record of who talks to who. Signal's phone number system means they can keep those contact lists clientside by piggybacking on the device contact list, which is keyed by phone number.