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Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by josephcsible on Monday November 07, 2022 @05:26PM (#33513435)
The golden rule of fees: if there are no circumstances under which you won't be charged the fee, then it should instead be incorporated into the base price. This sort of deception should be illegal.
Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by prvit on Monday November 07, 2022 @10:09PM (#33515487)
This seems to be a government tax, not a fee made up by the hotel.
Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by blamazon on Monday November 07, 2022 @10:39PM (#33515646)
Not a tax. This article outlines the impact of the ordinance:

https://www.fisherphillips.com/news-insights/8-things-los-an...

In short: it's worker protections.

Is there a "food safety fee" for following food safety requirements? Is there a "this building has adequate fire suppression" fee? This is basically a "we follow local labor laws" fee.

Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by lzazz on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @04:26AM (#33517446)
I don't like the idea of the price of a service being increased during checkout, but it's good that people are shown what part of the price that they pay goes to complying with regulations, city taxes, etc - that information allows them to vote better.
Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by ok_dad on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @04:35AM (#33517498)
That’s so naive, who says how much complying with labor laws costs? A business owner will lie and say it cost two times as much to gain advantage. Business owners should charge an up front price and if they can’t survive because they’re following the law then they can shut down and find a job. Owning a business isn’t a right bestowed by god.
Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by tehwebguy on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @06:05AM (#33517967)
Yeah and even for the actual taxes this justification is untrue anyway. Nobody hides the price do that users will be like “Oh good, Marriott is treating me right but that damn government is making them add a tax,” they do it to get you past the first few decision points and correctly expect many will just admit defeat on the checkout page.
Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @07:26AM (#33518329)
>who says how much complying with labor laws costs?

When you run an otherwise stable business and have records going back far enough it's pretty easy to see the "cost" of a any given change in how you run things especially if that change has a labor/materials impact that is pretty isolated and countable.

Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by floor2 on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @09:27AM (#33519282)
> who says how much complying with labor laws costs?

Basic accounting? If you used to pay $X for something and a new tax goes into effect that makes it $X * 5% tax, you can hide that into the overall price or be transparent to your customers about why your prices are increasing.

> they can shut down and find a job

Love it. The financial equivalent of "Why should I care about farmers? I buy my food at the store".

> Owning a business isn’t a right

If you're not allowed to independently make a living, but must be a wage slave for a different entity, then none of your other fundamental human rights really matter. The right to start your own business is one of the most fundamental human rights.

Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by Scharkenberg on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @07:38AM (#33518396)
Even if we assume you have a point there, are people staying at city A's hotels the ones voting in city A's elections?
Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by prvit on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @08:30AM (#33518716)
Yeah, a lot of people stay at hotels like this to have sex with prostitutes and whatnot.

People also book hotels for their family members coming from elsewhere.

Re:Two Marriott Hotels Introduce New Junk Fee by Ekaros on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @02:51AM (#33516902)
Even if the thing is always expected it should be in the price. Like "gratuities". Just insane, that there is expected level and it is not included and paid through by company by default.