When you can drive from First Avenue to Fourth on a downtown cross street, with a car 3’ from your rear bumper at the stoplight, without letting the smoke out, only then may you leave the monastery.

* Laughs in having to drive in San Francisco 6 months after learning how to drive a stick *

I live in Seattle now. Hills aren't nearly as bad as SF. Unless you count those atrocious, gravel-like roads in Eastlake.

Yeah, the rain and dark made it much worse