I've been poor and still kind of am, but I've never known real poverty. I've seen real poverty in others and there's no way in hell I'd want to start from there. The biggest hurdle to escaping endemic poverty is even knowing that there's a way out in the first place.
what?
> hasty generalization
there are no generalizations here. the article says that the author of the forbes article (as well as you), as a person or privilege, does not understand poverty and thus has no idea how to solve the problem. if anyone is making "hasty generalizations", its the author of the forbes article, who thinks that poor kids simply aren't trying hard enough.
> the use an outlier scenario
how do you know this is an outlier scenario?
> having goals and knowing that there is a prize to win at the end of the race, is a strong motivator
i doubt anyone would disagree with this statement, but it's irrelevant.
the original forbes article suggests that having goals and determination are sufficient for escaping poverty. this article makes the argument that even with goals and determination, escaping poverty is still extremely difficult; furthermore, the very condition of poverty undermines the ability to develop goals and determination.
I acted out in primary school. I did it because I was an asshole who didn't respect education. I suspect my peers were the same.
"a primarily low-income, high-minority middle school serving sixth- through eighth-graders"?
However, I find it very hard to believe that any school in the world can attribute most of it's student unruliness to children trying to get kicked out so that their mothers cannot be prostitutes.
Hasty generalization is much the same, by weighting the effect of an outlier in an effort to substantiate an argument or counter. I was not using that phrase in literal. It is a type of logical fallacy. I was simply observing that the use of an outlier argument does not negate the position of the OP.
I conceded that the original article was naive. Meaning that it did not provide enough scope to truly address the issue, but the importance of having vision in an environment that allows little is very important.
If the article is saying this, we can safely reject it as being a pointless ad-hominem attack.
I inferred that a lack of hope and knowledge of an achievable future, is one of the primary causes of lower performing low income students.