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Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by jfengel on Sunday November 06, 2022 @09:57AM (#33493272)
“Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.”

Douglas Adams thought he was joking.

Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by tgv on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:23AM (#33493563)
I'm almost sure Adams didn't think he was joking. He was just expressing it through a joke.
Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by YazIAm on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:10AM (#33493417)
Funny quote and all (no sarcasm intended) but I don't think it's fair to imply that, if future wars are bloodier than the past, it would be because we lowered barriers to communication.
Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by nobodyandproud on Sunday November 06, 2022 @12:22PM (#33494895)
Being diplomatic can be about being a communication filter.
Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by what_the_h321 on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:02AM (#33493321)
Do you have an example of a bloodier war than the World War 1 and 2?
Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by imnotjames on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:15AM (#33493474)
Well, there was the time that the Krikkit decided to wage war on the entire universe for 2000 years - I believe the estimate was about two grillion casualties.
Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by eru on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:29AM (#33493630)
You might like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll

Though you might want to look at your wars by death toll as percentage of total population?

Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by blackshaw on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:32AM (#33493655)
WWII wasn't the bloodiest conflict when you adjust for world population at the time. E.g. the Mongol Conquests or An Lushan Rebellion probably killed more.
Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by jonathanlydall on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:14AM (#33493467)
In case you’re being serious, Douglas Adams was an author of comedic fiction and the babel fish is from his Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy book and allowed different races from different planets to communicate with each other.

Trying to compare real world history with fictional possibilities is non-sensical.

Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by SapporoChris on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:09AM (#33493394)
No, but Second Sino-Japanese War, Taiping Rebellion and Transition from Ming to Qing are comparable.
Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by jfengel on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:08AM (#33493383)
In terms of body count, those still win, because Mutually Assured Destruction keeps giving people pause. But the Internet has turned into a machine for goading people into making a mistake, and it will only take one.

Meantime, thus far it's used just for local genocides, like Myanmar.

Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by stemlord on Sunday November 06, 2022 @01:43PM (#33495723)
I'm repeatedly surprised at how many people dont seem to get that most scifi is deliberately a reflection of issues that already exist in our current day society.

Like that is what makes the jokes in hitchhikers guide funny, and why the matrix is one of the most poignant narratives in pop culture... black mirror is real life taken to poetic extremes, it's not a coincidence that zuck's metaverse gives off "black mirror vibes", that is the specific intention of black mirror

Re:Was everyone stupid back then? by jfengel on Monday November 07, 2022 @09:31AM (#33506203)
That joke most certainly was a reflection of society, but I think it's different from the way that joke reads today (and out of context).

HHTG channeled the malaise and confusion of the 1970s, driven by nuclear war and economic downturns. (OK, a bit like now...) HHTG responded to that nihilism with pessimism on one side (Ford) and absurdism on the other (Zaphod). A lot of pleasures (sex, drugs, and rock and roll) were feeling hollow, and all Arthur (the prototypical Englishman) just wanted to hide and be comforted.

That joke certainly reflects a pessimism that is persistent in all societies, that every good thing must also have a downside. I took it out of context to highlight the communication aspect, something that I don't think was especially on Adams' mind -- though it would be only a few years before a communications revolution.

I think Adams' would take credit for pessimism being right -- usually a safe bet.