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Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by seltzered_ on Saturday November 05, 2022 @06:42PM (#33486708)
For conversation, it's worth noting a recent critique of Stewart Brand here: https://www.techwontsave.us/episode/126_the_real_legacy_of_s...

Also worth noting Brand in his younger days was actually rather concerned about issues of overpopulation (and likely population pressure too), he's excerpted in the Ray Offenheiser PBS documentary about Norman Borlaug and 'the green revolution': https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/green-r...

Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by pencilguin on Saturday November 05, 2022 @06:49PM (#33486766)
Population pressure disproportionately harms the poor. This is still a big deal in Africa, where Nigeria is likely to have a billion people in a few years. Providing education to girls so they can later support themselves better is the most effective on-site method known to reduce that suffering, and also cuts population pressure where it is harmful.

I have strictly more complaints about John Markoff.

He is personally responsible for, e.g., Kevin Mitnick not being allowed to use the telephone while in prison, out of trumped up fear he could hack with it.

Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by public_defender on Saturday November 05, 2022 @07:18PM (#33486973)
> Nigeria is likely to have a billion people in a few years.

There are less than 220M people in Nigeria now. The population growth is very fast, but even on long odds it's more accurate to say "a few decades."

Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by pencilguin on Saturday November 05, 2022 @08:34PM (#33487471)
I think what I read predicted a billion in Nigeria by century end, 10B total. But a lot can happen in 80 years.
Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by mdaEyebot on Saturday November 05, 2022 @08:41PM (#33487505)
The century will end in about 77.15 years, at which point most of us reading this will be dead.

A bit more than 'a few'.

Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by pencilguin on Saturday November 05, 2022 @08:52PM (#33487573)
There have been anatomically modern humans for ~300,000 years. We have had systematic agriculture for just a while.
Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by seltzered_ on Saturday November 05, 2022 @08:28PM (#33487422)
Yes, but i perceive population population pressure more in terms of consumption or 'biophysical boundaries transgressed' which happens primarily in the global north / high GDP countries. See 'a good life for all within planetary boundaries' for more info: https://goodlife.leeds.ac.uk/

Regarding your comment about Africa specifically, I don't know enough and try to hold a bit of carefulness around Education if it's not being done with appropriate context. You might like this podcast that goes into a social facilitation framework being used in areas like Africa: https://www.outsideinpodcast.org/episodes/10-groupsofgroups

Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by whimsicalism on Saturday November 05, 2022 @08:45PM (#33487529)
Not to bikeshed, but it'd be a pretty easy accessibility win if this "techwontsave.us" podcast had a transcript.
Re:Stewart Brand Says He’s Still an Optimist by gcanyon on Sunday November 06, 2022 @02:16AM (#33490026)
That's not bikeshedding, that's common sense and basic usability.