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Re:Why Lisp? by funklute on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:28AM (#33467277)
> You don't happen to read many Lisp HN threads in detail do you?

Again, you could dial down the arrogance.

I do read most threads on lisp in a fair bit of detail, and I don't often find "trolls". I usually find an assortment of people interested in discussing various aspects of lisp, including its real-world utility. And I mostly find the various perspectives to be nothing but positive additions to the debate.

I daresay that you fit the description of a troll much more than someone who dares ask if lisp is actually useful.

Re:Why Lisp? by TurboHaskal on Friday November 04, 2022 @02:49PM (#33471817)
There are many in this thread. You can see them if you squint or read between the lines.
Re:Why Lisp? by CyberDildonics on Friday November 04, 2022 @03:41PM (#33472636)
Is pointing out the current state of lisp trolling?
Re:Why Lisp? by funklute on Saturday November 05, 2022 @11:23AM (#33482320)
That they disagree with you, or have a different perspective than you, does not make anyone a troll.
Re:Why Lisp? by TurboHaskal on Saturday November 05, 2022 @03:11PM (#33484629)
They have the same perspective as me: that Lisp is dead. I just wished they didn't go around these threads putting salt on the wound.
Re:Why Lisp? by funklute on Saturday November 05, 2022 @04:23PM (#33485255)
I mean, if that's your angle, then I can sort of see your point. But at the same time: if I decided one day to properly learn lisp (so far my interest in it has been as a curious outsider), I would do so not because it's an active language, but because I'm interested in what I can learn from it. Yet I would obviously go and seek out whatever tools are written in lisp, both so I can feel that I'm really using the tooling, and so that I can look into how various real-world projects have been designed using lisp. None of that would make me a troll or a bad-faith actor in these kinds of threads. It simply means I would be asking questions about a topic on which lisp arguably does not excel, but for genuine reasons. Certainly not to rub salt anywhere. And I like to assume the same about other people who ask such questions.