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Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by runako on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:19AM (#33466172)
Anecdotal, but I know of a few companies that are cutting jobs in the US and moving them to lower-wage areas including Western Europe. Huge difference between employee compensation in SF vs much of Europe, even after taxes/benefits/etc.
Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by vocram on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:31AM (#33466369)
If the goal is to save money, why not move those jobs to even cheaper countries?
Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by rocketbop on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:35AM (#33466424)
Perhaps a perception that people in western Europe will be a closer cultural fit? Perhaps timezone proximity? Perhaps because executives want an excuse to travel regularly to Berlin or London or Paris or Barcelona?
Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by torbica on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:36AM (#33466441)
More similar culture and laws.
Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by ghaff on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:42AM (#33466534)
And timezones. Western/Central Europe works fine especially from the East coast of the US. Asia is much harder.
Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by runako on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:50AM (#33466659)
What other people said, plus also if you open an office in Western Europe, you are also proximate to a new set of advertisers in relatively high-income countries.
Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by yeneek on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:52AM (#33466683)
I believe it's a good compromise on timezone (8-9 hours is manageable), political stability, safety and reasonable talent pool. You can still relocate people from cheaper countries yo richer ones. You can convince Romanian to move to Germany, but you can't convince German to move to Romania.
Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by ChuckNorris89 on Friday November 04, 2022 @11:31AM (#33468371)
The funny thing is, from what I noticed there might be more US companies hiring talent in Romania because of the big local talent pool willing to grind, low corporate taxes, lax regulations and bureaucracy, than they're hiring in Germany due to the high taxes, strict labor laws and complex bureaucracy. I could be wrong, but that's my anecdote.

Immigration to Germany was big 10-20 years ago, but now, most Romanian devs these days, unless they get offers that go above six figures, aren't rushing to move to Germany as most take home dev wages have almost caught up, but the CoL and housing is way cheaper than in Germany.

From what I saw, they open a small office in Germany when they either want to tap some university/research institution or open a big office when they want to bring a lot of Indian/Turkish/non-EU devs here who want to move to EU, and low-ball them, as Germany is a preferred immigration destination.

Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by yeneek on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:15PM (#33469134)
Interesting insight. Thanks!
Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by brnt on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:09PM (#33470180)
> but you can't convince German to move to Romania.

I think nobody is trying, but with the right salary I'd love to. Some acquaintances did something like this: they moved from France to Poland and have a salary that's locally really good. There's more companies that hire like that on the basis that a certain salary gets you further somewhere east.

Re:Ask HN: What Recession? by pyb on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:11PM (#33470217)
Are there any left ? I heard anecdotes that tech salaries in places like Bangalore are now on par with of Western Europe.