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Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by smileybarry on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:13PM (#33458587)
I just got the email mentioned in the article (and that's the only blog source I found for it, including Microsoft.com). After the whole G Suite Free cancellation I thought about switching my domain email to Outlook for that benefit, but I decided against moving. Guess that was a good call.
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by bpye on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:33PM (#33458848)
If you're looking for a new provider I'd vouch for Fastmail. I switched from Google's free plan back when they killed Inbox, and I've been pretty happy with it.
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by nicce on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:36PM (#33458876)
Tutanota is not bad either. Still a small provider but growing. They have also E2EE calendar.
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by gaganyaan on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:47AM (#33462318)
Did not care for Tutanota, mostly because I don't want to have yet another Electron app running. I just wanted to use Tutanota as an email host, with E2EE enabled where available/feasible. Instead, I couldn't use Thunderbird to access my email, which kind of killed it for me.
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by nicce on Friday November 04, 2022 @06:29AM (#33464346)
PGP encryption is problematic, and Tutanota is not using it. Therefore, adding Thunderbird support is challenging.

There are around 15 people working in Tutanota, and without Electron they really can’t provide it for every platform.

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by smileybarry on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:42PM (#33458964)
My problem is that I use my G Suite Free as a sort-of alias, it all still goes to my main Gmail (that I can't change due to billions of accounts pointing to it) and I then send replies back with the @domain.name identity (and associated SMTP).

I haven't been able to find a service to fill that niche that isn't a whole inbox, but also doesn't feel like some shaky registrar IMAP/SMTP setup. It's definitely a deliverability perk to have Google serve my domain.

Cloudflare have a really nice incoming email redirection feature and I wanted to use it, but they don't support sending emails by design.

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by daurnimator on Thursday November 03, 2022 @07:36PM (#33459507)
You might be able to find a solution in migadu (https://www.migadu.com/)
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by PetitSasquatch on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:04AM (#33462425)
I found Migadu through a HN post like this and can't recommend them enough. It feels like having my own mail server without the headaches. The pricing model works for me and I find the control panel really well laid out. I don't think I could return to an email provider that leases emails at my own domain back to me.
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by SkinTaco on Friday November 04, 2022 @02:00AM (#33462738)
Wow, this is exactly what I'm looking for. How often do emails you send go to other people's spam? Do you know people with an outlook email?
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by PetitSasquatch on Friday November 04, 2022 @04:42AM (#33463588)
I've not experienced that problem. I'm uncertain how many Outlook inboxes I've mailed, but I have done so and they did work.
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by bpye on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:47PM (#33459023)
You can configure Fastmail to do that, but I guess it would be in reverse. I have some old Google accounts (old student email and pre-custom domain gmail) configured to forward mail to Fastmail, and then Fastmail configured to send email via Google for those email addresses too.

https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000278022-Us...

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by nicoburns on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:48PM (#33459036)
I use Fastmail, and have it pull in my gmail account via IMAP. I actually don’t have too much sent to my gmail these days, as I was already using the custom domain with gmail for many years before I switched providers, but what does get sent to it comes through just fine.
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by cmeacham98 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:51PM (#33459059)
I'm not sure why this can't work with basically any email provider? Setup you domain like normal, and configure gmail to forward all incoming mail to your address on your domain.

What is the feature you're missing here?

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by smileybarry on Thursday November 03, 2022 @07:29PM (#33459424)
It can, but then pricing bothers me. I just got so used to G Suite free that I don't want to tack on a $10/month subscription for forwarding. (It's silly given the myriad of other subscriptions I'm fine with, though)
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by cmeacham98 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @07:48PM (#33459637)
You're not paying for forwarding, you're paying for someone to host a whole email stack for you (and the associated dev work such as on clients).

You can choose to use a "free" provider like Gmail if you're ok with paying with your data and a lack of features (such as not being able to use a custom domain).

Also by the way, Fastmail is half the price you list at $5/month (might have to prepay a year to get that price).

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by smileybarry on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:10PM (#33459864)
> You're not paying for forwarding, you're paying for someone to host a whole email stack for you (and the associated dev work such as on clients).

I know, and I love ProtonMail (for example) for that, but my use would just be forwarding and not storage or access. In my use case it would feel like overpaying.

> You can choose to use a "free" provider like Gmail if you're ok with paying with your data and a lack of features (such as not being able to use a custom domain).

It's versus G Suite Free (which is my secondary, "online name" email), my main (real name) email has to stay at Gmail because I'm afraid of the mountain of account resets I'd have to do. To be fair, this whole value consideration was back when Google were threatening to kill off G Suite Free entirely (a few months ago), so it was paid-versus-paid then.

> Also by the way, Fastmail is half the price you list at $5/month

Fair, $10/month was off the top of my head.

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by cmeacham98 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @10:25PM (#33461171)
> I know, and I love ProtonMail (for example) for that, but my use would just be forwarding and not storage or access. In my use case it would feel like overpaying.

It sounded to me like you were _sending_ email as well from your custom domain, which is (in my opinion) the hardest and most expensive part of running a mail service.

If you're only going to use it for forwarding you could just use something like Cloudflare's service as you previously mentioned.

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by borissk on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:24PM (#33458734)
This would've not impacted you, if you did move - they stop offering the feature to new customers, but will keep it working for existing users.

I've had a couple of free emails with custom domains setup probably 15 years ago (Microsoft went through a few different names for this service since) and they work to this day. The only difference is I can't create new email accounts in the custom domains.

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by smileybarry on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:32PM (#33458828)
It would, because I make aliases and other mailboxes occasionally. I don't want to be locked into just the one name forever.
Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by anoojb on Thursday November 03, 2022 @06:26PM (#33458763)
I was in the same boat. Now feeling lucky I didn't make that mistake.

Makes you wonder how much of this has to do with fraud and spam mitigation. It must be bad enough that they are throwing out the baby...

Re:Microsoft is killing custom domain names in Outlook.com by rainsford on Thursday November 03, 2022 @07:10PM (#33459256)
I had a similar thought, although I ended up actually trying out Microsoft's full O365 suite instead since I figured if I was going to end up paying for something, I might as well consider alternatives that might be less flaky than Google's commitment to products.

Sounds like Outlook wouldn't have been a good choice with this feature getting killed, but O365 was a whole different kind of hassle. For my incredibly simple setup, it was amazing how complex Microsoft managed to make it. I have never had to read so much documentation in my life to do what were intuitive tasks in G Suite's interface. I ended up abandoning it for Cloudflare+Sendgrid which met my needs and was simpler to set up despite involving two different providers. Honestly I think configuring my own mail server from scratch would have been simpler than Microsoft made it.

All that to say, my impression is that Microsoft is not really interested in serving the power user or small team market and is comfortable with a feature set and interface intended for what would otherwise be an Exchange admin at a Fortune 500. Maybe a slight exaggeration, but I get it from a profit margin standpoint at the very least.